November 3, 2010 1:37 am at 1:37 am #592886
To your knowledge, which Seminaries (mainstream Brooklyn types) are known to focus on Hashkafa. I’m a guy. The reason I ask is because when a shidduch is redt I want to have a clue what type of Seminary she went to and Hashkafah is very important to me. I couldn’t give a darn if she can’t read a Radak on Shoftim or knows 100 Rambans. If she’s going to be the mother of my children I want her to have her Hashkofos solid. (That includes no movies, tv, non Jewish musiic…)
So which Seminaries are known to inspire the girls with good Hashkafos?November 3, 2010 3:59 am at 3:59 am #706245
Smile E. FaceMember
good meaning what exactly?!November 3, 2010 4:17 am at 4:17 am #706246
What I mean is I want a normal girl, Tzanua but not a super frummie, eidel meidel type. Someone with personality, but has her head on straight and is strong in her Yiddishkiet. Which Sems produce those types?November 3, 2010 4:51 am at 4:51 am #706247
Smile E. Face
Someone who has good Hashkafos. Not clueless. Has read books, understands things about Emunah, Betachon…
Isnt focused on gashmiyus and wants to grow spiritually…November 3, 2010 5:26 am at 5:26 am #706248
meohr?November 3, 2010 7:58 am at 7:58 am #706249
Nachlas! Just what u’re looking for although she might also know a few rambans!November 3, 2010 11:56 am at 11:56 am #706250
Kol Lashon Hasfkafah L’Rah Hee… (Rashi, By Sdom)
What is Haskafah?November 3, 2010 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm #706251
Afikei torah is a wouderful seminary the girls have great middos and will never ever talk to a boy walking down geulah on friday afternoon.http://www.afikeitorah.org/November 3, 2010 12:45 pm at 12:45 pm #706252
chochmas lev (Rabbi Bulman) Amazing Sem. Tons of Haskofa and each girl who goes is sweet, nice and down to earth. Very not materialistic.November 3, 2010 1:01 pm at 1:01 pm #706253
I wouldnt say no to a girl based on what seminary or school she went to. Look at the girl as a whole…November 3, 2010 1:30 pm at 1:30 pm #706254
By far Gateshead wins according to those criteria.November 3, 2010 1:44 pm at 1:44 pm #706255
Then again most Gateshead products will not be thrilled to have their husband to be on the internet so often as WIY..
Sorry I had to say that!November 3, 2010 2:33 pm at 2:33 pm #706256
meohr!!!!! Chochmas Lev,Shoshanim, The textual seminaries also give over a solid hashkafa as well… when looking into the educational background of a girl keep in mind it’s not clear cut… she went to Seminary X so her hashkafas are this type! You get a general idea of the type but there are so many girls who went to a seminary and for whatever reason when looking back at the year would have chosen another one–meaning it’s not black and white..November 3, 2010 2:51 pm at 2:51 pm #706257
not 1: it really depends which sem in gateshead the girl goes to. gateshead old is more into learning miforshim since its a teacher training college. and on the other hand gateshead new is more haskafa and preparing a girl for marriage rather then teach her all miforshim. (and gateshead new has internet;))November 3, 2010 3:38 pm at 3:38 pm #706259
pninimNovember 3, 2010 3:43 pm at 3:43 pm #706260
In truth, the best seminary is the home.
As a mother of sons, whose daughter in laws went to different seminaries, down the road what they saw at home is very important. Yes, they went to seminaries as Gateshead, BJJ, B.Y. of Boro Park and even to no seminary but what they saw at home comes through the most.
Machon Bais Yaakov, with no affiliation to it, is known to prepare the girls for the real world. Not only that, but the principal is there for his students even many years after they left school.
Hatzlocha Rabba young man and discuss this with your Rosh Yeshiva and follow what he tells you. Remember shlepping with the dating for years goes against Shmiras Aynayim. Perhaps let your parents come along on the first date and listen to what they have to say, not what your friends tell you.November 3, 2010 4:48 pm at 4:48 pm #706261
although even the text based sems give over “hashkafa” classes, the following mainstream sems are hashkafically based and seem to run along your lines:
2. Chochmas Lev
4. AteresNovember 3, 2010 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #706262
Popa is the seminary expert!!!
Obviously Sharfman’s, as evidenced by their proximity to the sanhedria caves.November 3, 2010 6:51 pm at 6:51 pm #706263
Sounds good. I think you are on the right track.
You are right I know guys who dated and ended up marrying girls who went to more “modern” seminaries but she was a great girl and not the typical of that seminary.
But I guess knowing which seminary she went to can tell me that she cares about Hashkafa and knows her stuff. I want her to be familiar with Rav Desslers ideas or something along those lines or have at least read Rav Tatz or Rav Kaplans books.
To me its important that the person I marry understands what being Jewish is all about. Its not enough to just know what to do and go through the motions.November 3, 2010 7:18 pm at 7:18 pm #706265
Who else thinks WIY and Sac are flirting in the CoffeeRoom? Time to meet up for your slurpee shidduch date!November 3, 2010 7:25 pm at 7:25 pm #706266
Why is that so impossible to find? (I’m sure there are many BY girls reading your comment and getting insulted)
Please explain.November 3, 2010 7:29 pm at 7:29 pm #706267
i thought ur last statement was out of line.
its first of all, not entirely true, and while monotony in judaism is a topic to be discussed, possibly, your comment was very much a generalization and slightly offensive.
i do not think that WIY’s criteria contradict each other. such people do exist (yourself included :))
thanks.November 3, 2010 7:50 pm at 7:50 pm #706268
Thanks for the laugh 😉
I’m just entertaining myself I don’t think her and I are in the same place ideologically you would see that if you read all of my posts as well as hers.
Besides, I don’t like slurpee. Right there I said it! Lol.November 3, 2010 8:03 pm at 8:03 pm #706269
If you thought this is how I flirt… we have a problem.
I didnt say it was impossible, I said Good Luck, meaning it will be hard. BY isnt exactly known for teaching girl how to think on their own…
I’m sorry you were offended, the truth does hurt. I didnt sat EVERYONE was like they I said
“To me its important that the person I marry understands what being Jewish is all about. Its not enough to just know what to do and go through the motions”
will be hard to find. I’ll be honest, I have a hard time finding that in a run of the mill Yeshiva guy.November 3, 2010 8:25 pm at 8:25 pm #706270
Obviously you are dating the wrong type of guys.. Come on! I am a BY girl married to a Yeshiva boy who definitely knows what it is all about. Neither of us are acting, making decisions cause that’s what we do.. Get A life!November 3, 2010 8:31 pm at 8:31 pm #706272
ok i hear you, not offended, just saying, please dont cast blanket statements in such a flippant manner.
yes, the BY system has a stereotype of producing blind sheep. we can all agree there are plenty exceptions to this rule. especially from my aforementioned list of sems.November 3, 2010 8:52 pm at 8:52 pm #706275
So how am I supposed to find out about her Hashkafos? Her friends? Who will know?November 3, 2010 9:17 pm at 9:17 pm #706276
WIY – my daughter went to a seminary not particularly emphasizing hashkafa yet, she told her brother she is not interested in a boy who went to a particular yeshiva simply because everyone does. While I know that in this “boys market” girls cant be picky, I would like to know why girls have to justify their choice of seminary which really doesn’t reflect who they are or what they believe, practice or understand, but boys don’t. I’d like to see you define a “Lakewood” boy. My daughter made a serious decision about which seminary to go to that had nothing to do with where “the best girls go”, I hope her chosson will have done the same.November 3, 2010 9:31 pm at 9:31 pm #706278
Well, sounds to me like you know what’s truly important in a wife. If that’s the case, and you also know that going to E”Y is not a MUST, look into Machon seminary girls. Obviously, there is learning – chumash, navi, etc., but the lessons are given over very, very well. I also found that the teachers there always added hashkafa to their lessons. I for one didn’t want heavy learning in sem. It was a great decision for me, as I gained tremendously from that year.
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