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I always believed it was true. But have seen others have their doubts and laugh at it.
My question is if it is true, though, how did the goy working on the fish suddenly understand Yiddish?
Ok granted, there are non jews who have worked long enough with yidden to pick up yiddish.
Anyways, do you believe the story?
The story was in new square wher the only spoken language is yiddish.
I believe the Spanish worker likely had something in his system and “thought” he heard and saw the fish talking.
Can such a thing happen? Maybe. But I don’t believe it would take place the way it did. Maybe if it was bought by a Tzaddik…I don’t believe that it would happen in a fish store and the only witness would be a Spanish non Jew.
Why not. A talking gecko sold me car insurance.
whats the story?
It’s a “Fish” story like any other “Fish” story. Why didn’t the fish start talking at the Rebbe’s tish, with hundreds of Chassidim present?! It’s funny. All these “Mof’sim” (Wonderful, unusual occurrences) either happened “A Long Time Ago” or they happen in a store where there are no witnesses, like customers. One thing is certain. It sold a lot of newspapers. Those papers that ran with the story were all sold out.
Apushatayid
There must have been a ventriloquist involved.
I’ll believe a fish talks when he says something to me. And when he does I’ll ask him to go away and come back when I’m sober.
Always runs with scissors fast; Unless your entire post is in a facetious manner, (Which I think it is) I’m giving you a lot of credit for being such a “Tomim” or “Temimah”. Frankly. I’m a very big skeptic of all those “Magicians” who purport to “Read” Mezuzahs and Kesubohs and inferring from those readings the present and future status of the individual. They are ALL charlatans, whose fakery is caught sooner or later. A true “Baal Mofes”, whose brachos come true, will be very subtle and will not parade his powers in public.
I beleive that hashem can make a fish talk, but I also beleive hashem could talk to us without the fish being a middleman, no need to be ???? ????
apushiteyid – LOL – really funny!
anyway – this is so freaky cuz my daughters and i were just talking about it this morning (after not having spoken or heard about it in a very long time)and now – this thread shows up! so now that’s proof enough for us that it really happened! but seriously, at the time of the story, my husband asked his rav if he thought it really happened. he said it’s definitely possible. sooo… who knows?
The Torah emphasises again and again and again that we have Emunah because of what we saw en masse with our own eyes, Yetzias Mitzrayim and Matan Torah.
That is what differentiates us from the tens of other religions all based on what one person, or at best a few said.
We do not need to feel guilty about not believing anything else like talking fish or dancing mice or whatever else some Hispanic dreamt up no matter how convincing his story is or how many ‘choshuve’ people believe it.
Gefen; Did you hear what the Rav said?! “It’s definitely Possible”. Not that it definitely happened! Or, you already have proof that Even the Rav said it definitely happened. There is a saying (In Midrash or Talmud) That Hashem does not create a miracle for nothing. (Only for a good reason.) ???”? ?? ???? ???? ?????. In other words. Even in a situation that involves saving someone’s life, Hashem will make it appear natural. Maybe, selling newspapers is a good enough reason.
Sounds fishy to me 😉
What I CAN’T believe is that this happened that many years ago! How does time fly so quickly?
We had read the story in LA. From the account we read the fish was speaking Aramaic about Mashiach. The Hispanic worker rushed to get the owner who also heard the fish speaking. My favorite was the ending of the story when the own apparently still killed it and sold it.
It was a Babylon fish?
the last time I heard of a talking fish he was saying “give me some fillet O’ fish give me that fish”
good point however I never heard it
I really should take out of and say I’ve never heard a talking fish….
wow ANOTHER anonymous debate! who is taking this seriously, by show of hands?
just fyi, i am involved in arachim, and had the fascinating experience of hearing the following story from a VERY well respected senior arachim lecturer (sorry i dont like to write peoples names on the net)
he met a doctor at a seminar. @ the end of the seminar, the doctor (whose name he told to me, this was a private conversation.) emotionally stated that hearing the proofs of yiddishkeit so rationally presented had changed his life forever. later the lecturer asked him (im shorthanding this), tell me what inspired you to come? he replied, i have been a doctor for many yrs now, but always i had in mind to learn more about my religion one day, because of two reasons, and if not for both, i doubt i would be here. one is people know i am jewish, and sometimes i realize how sad it is that my christian friends, even the most dissasociated ones, have at least a basic idea of their religion, while i had no idea what mine was about.
(posters note:READY FOR IT? HERE IT COMES. anything in parentheses is me talking)
the second reason, is that way back when i was a resident, i was on morgue duty one night (or wherever it is they keep dead bodies in a hospital before being transported out) my duties included making sure people who had died of certain causes were really completely dead by administering increasingly higher electric shocks to the point where a human being could not possibly survive (you can google this for more info). one night an old jewish man was wheeled into the hospital, he had died naturally from a heart attack. he was sent down to me, and i thought about how he reminded me of my grampa, with his long beard and sidelocks. anyways, i administered the regular testing process, and when it was definitively determined that this man was absolutely and completely dead i turned around to get the papers to start the paperwork. i was alone down there, since in the hospital i was in they dont usually station more than one person at a time down there unless needed. when i turned back to the body he was staring straight at me and sitting up! i was more frightened than i had ever been in my life! he looked straight at me, and using my full hebrew name (ploni ben ploni) which NO ONE KNEW & i hadnt heard since my gramps made me have a barmitzvah, he said to me:
DO YOU PUT ON TEFILLIN? my gramps had bought me a pair for my barmitzvah, but after he died, i never used them again, it had only been to humor him anyway. DO YOU SAY KADDISH FOR YOUR FATHER? he had recently died. i mutely shook my head no. the dead mans burning eyes looked straight into mine and he shouted YOUR ZEIDY PLONI BEN PLONI (he used his full hebrew name) IS VERY SAD BECAUSE OF YOUR ACTIONS! PUT ON TEFILLIN! SAY KADDISH FOR YOUR FATHER! HE ASKED ME TO GIVE YOU THIS MESSAGE! then the man collapsed, completely lifeless, back on the table.
i was so shaken i could not move for a long time. eventually i went to the break room, where some of the other doctors saw me. concerned, they asked what happened. when i told them, they all looked at each other, and then burst out laughing. one of them informed me that it wasnt uncommon for people to have “experiences” while working alone with the dead, usually because they were tired at the end of a shift of working only with dead bodies. we all had a great laugh together about it. but i knew what had happened there was very very real. and so i resolved to one day do something about it, if only for my zeidy.
well thats the story, and fyi the lecturer when he told it to me said he asked the man questions about details in the morgue room and other things, until he himself was satisfied that this actually happened. he is a BIG skeptic and hates all things mystical, but he told me that he completely believed that this doctor, a top notch professional who had an excellent reputation (and still does) had really had that experience.
the lecturer then went to say “the amazing thing was, that was only ONE OF THE TWO reasons he went to the seminar.”
so do strange things really happen? probably. but really, all thats important is how it affects you.
good night!
I have 2 talking fish. One is a Zali and one is an Aroini. I was up all night last night because of all the fighting in my aquarium.
600 kilo bear,
Are they bettas?
“the last time I heard of a talking fish he was saying “give me some fillet O’ fish give me that fish”
what if it were you hanging up on this wall…
lolface -“he is a BIG skeptic and hates all things mystical,”
Sorry, I’m a bigger skeptic. In my mind, it was his Neshoma talking to him, not the dead person. He was alone -he saw a yid who looked like his Zaida and sat down. He probably nodded off for a few and had this dream. He might not even realize it was a dream. But the resemblance to his Zaida triggered his Neshoma to wake up. The reason I think, it was a dream is because if it was the Nifter, why would 1. he have contact with his Zaida? Remember the Neshoma has not gone up to Shomayim at this point. 2. Why give Mussar on just Tiffilin and Kaddish -What about all the Mitzvos?
I do. It said: “burn down all infidels’ homes.”
hahaha health you may have missed my point. my point was, who cares if you believe it? hopefully the person who it was supposed to affect believes it, and hopefully it affected them the point i was trying to make was this:
we may never know what really happened in that morgue. but that doctor, who was a sane, rational, and very smart human being really honestly truly truly believed that a dead man came back to life to give him a message from his zeide, and you know what he did with that experience? he went up to the break room and had a laugh. even if it was his neshama talking, a message from hashem it was either way. turns out it wasnt wasted because 10 yrs later it eventually helped nurture a decision to go to arachim, but the bottom line is he did nothing after a man came back from the dead to speak to him (again; thats what he believed)
whether or not a fish spoke is a non-issue. the result, however, is not. we do not have to believe a fish spoke or did not speak, because it will affect us very little whether we view it skeptically or not. are you going to move to yerushalayim and never speak divrei bitul again for the rest of your life if you allow yourself to believe it might have happened? BUT! what about the person who claims it happened to them? did they change as a result?
the rest is just inconsequential.
lolface -“hahaha health you may have missed my point. my point was, who cares if you believe it?”
And you missed my point. Yiddishkeit doesn’t need all these “miracles” to prove that it’s true. This is a Goyishe concept. I know the Xtians have all these “Miracles” that Yoshke performed. This is one of their basis that their religion is right. They need these false foundations to build on.
hmmmm. in fact, health, i do actually agree with you on that point, although only to an extent, and not to an extreme.
What’s next, a fish sending out text messages about a dream he had about moshiach?
Health
Yiddishkiet as a whole doesn’t need it but non frum people need it. There are many incredible stories from Bale Teshuvah that experienced miracles (probably in the zchus of their holy forebears) which lead them to search into their Judaism and become frum. These people often need that something to push them to wake them up and realize that there’s a Hashem and an Oilum Habah.
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