July 3, 2013 2:11 am at 2:11 am #963873rationalfrummieMember
Temimus: if newt’s team did such a good job, why were they voted out of office, and the ‘contract with america’ effectively never implemented?July 3, 2013 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm #963874temimusMember
rational: You’re incorrect. Parts of the Contract were implemented. Other parts Clinton vetoed even though it was passed. After Newt’s guys won the House in 1994, the Republicans kept control of it for 12 years until 2007. (They lost it in the ’06 elections and regained it in the ’10 elections and the Republicans are holding it ever since.)July 3, 2013 9:05 pm at 9:05 pm #963875
FDR was the Commander in Chief, he certainly could have ordered Eisenhower to bomb the railways to Auschwitz and other camps.
FDR also refused to meet with the Rabbis that marched on Washington to request the US create a task force to rescue the remaining Jews in Europe.July 4, 2013 12:23 am at 12:23 am #963876
Okay, OOM, I’m curious…
Unless you’re especially a fan of the “Billion Dollar Congress,” the McKinley Tariff and Sherman Antitrust Act, and his civil rights and education efforts, I can’t really see what’s so remarkable about him.
Though if you mean William Henry Harrison, then I can see your point because he didn’t have a lot of time to make enemies or suffer scandals :).July 4, 2013 1:28 am at 1:28 am #963877
I probably shouldn’t speak for oomis, but McKinley was widely viewed as a mensch. He was devoted to his wife even though she was sickly and needy. He was a moderate man who steered the country successfully through a booming economy and war. He probably would have been viewed as a much greater President if not for the incredible Teddy Roosevelt succeeding him.July 4, 2013 2:29 am at 2:29 am #963878
A) I was talking to OneOfMany (OOM), not oomis. (Though I can see where the mistake would be made.)
B) The McKinley Tariff was from the presidency of Benjamin Harrison, as I mentioned in my post.
I’m not saying anything negative about the presidency of McKinley. All I said was that B Harrison had a kind of unremarkable presidency and I was wondering why OOM mentioned she liked him.July 4, 2013 2:33 am at 2:33 am #963879
My husband is a big fan of Clinton. He says all politicians are immoral, and the fact that Clinton’s immorality was made more public than others’ has no bearing on his achievements.July 4, 2013 2:39 am at 2:39 am #963880Biology (joseph)Participant
jf02: Isn’t there a bit of incongruity of your earlier challanging the idea that all actors are immoral but accepting your husbands assertion that all politicians are immoral?July 4, 2013 2:44 am at 2:44 am #963881
First of all, I don’t agree with my husband. I think that some politicians are decent human beings. I do think it’s very difficult to become president (as opposed to a lower-ranking politician) and remain a decent human being, but I think it’s possible. I was simply quoting my husband b’sheim amro. (My mother, incidentally, agrees with him– she’s fond of saying “They’re all crooks!”)
Second of all. I think that the inherent immoral temptations of a career in politics are significantly more dangerous than the inherent immoral temptations of a career in acting.July 4, 2013 2:50 am at 2:50 am #963882Biology (joseph)Participant
I would think actors enacting all sorts of immoral scenes has a greater influence on them than anything politicians engage in.July 4, 2013 3:09 am at 3:09 am #963883UtahMember
I really like how he handled the US Economy and how he dealt with trusts. He was in my opinion one of the best presidents ever.July 4, 2013 3:45 am at 3:45 am #963884OneOfManyParticipant
psh, Syag was much closerJuly 4, 2013 4:09 am at 4:09 am #963885
Any “immoral scenes” performed by actors are 1) fictional and 2) out there for the world to see. Politicians, on the other hand, are tempted all the time by corruption and bribery which are very real and, as we have seen, can be concealed.July 4, 2013 4:42 pm at 4:42 pm #963886
OOM: ‘Kay then…July 4, 2013 5:50 pm at 5:50 pm #963888
Benjamin Harrison is the last President to sport a beard.
Whoops. I should have read more carefully.July 4, 2013 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #963889
Fun fact: the youngest U.S. president to be in office was Theodore Roosevelt at age 42.July 4, 2013 6:07 pm at 6:07 pm #963890
Actually, the youngest president ever was Barak HUSSEIN Obama, who, according to his real birth certificate was born in Kenya on October 23rd 1979 which means he was also too young to be president, even for his second term.
This is also another proof that his college records–which we have never seen in full–were FAKED and that he never DESERVED to go to Harvard law.July 4, 2013 6:12 pm at 6:12 pm #963891
He was born on August 4, 1961 in Hawaii. The above claim has been debunked over and over again.July 4, 2013 6:40 pm at 6:40 pm #963892just my hapenceParticipant
Mr Slant, though Boggis is a close second.July 4, 2013 6:46 pm at 6:46 pm #963893
PBA is trolling. Obama did not go to Harvard Law School at 9 years old.July 4, 2013 6:48 pm at 6:48 pm #963894
PBA is trolling. Obama did not go to Harvard Law School at 9 years old.
Yet another proof that the OFFICIAL story is wrong.July 4, 2013 6:55 pm at 6:55 pm #963895
HahaJuly 4, 2013 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #963896
If by the “official story” you mean proven fact…July 4, 2013 7:00 pm at 7:00 pm #963897
If by the “official story” you mean proven fact…
I don’t believe any proven facts. I only believe proven FACT.
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