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A woman remarries. With the coming of Moshiach which husband will keep her after Techiyas Hameisim?
What differences, if any, would it make if it involved the following different scenarios:
1. She’s married to her first husband for a few months, becomes an almana and remarries. She lives with her second husband for 75 years before passing.
2. She’s married to her first husband for 75 years and he passes. She remarries to her second husband and passes away a few months later.
3. She’s married to her first husband, he divorces her and she gets remarried.
A potential additional factor is that she has children with only one of the two husbands (either the first or the second; either the one she was married to for only a few months or the one she was married to for decades.) Seemingly this factor doesn’t make a legal/halachic distinction, but feel free to disagree if you have sources to do so.
In the third scenario I would imagine everyone agrees her second husband keeps her after Techiyas Hameisim. If anyone believes otherwise, please explain.
The first two scenarios are essentially the same, on a legal (halachic) basis. The number of years (or months) of her marriages before one (or both) of the spouses passes away makes no halachic distinction.
Who will she be married to?
Your thoughts, please. (Halachic; not boich svaras.)
I think Rav Ftiha discusses this paradox but I dont remember where. She probably is single because ???? ???? ???? .
It’s a big question that has been brought up many times to poskim.
Many women didn’t want to remarry because they were worried that they would be stuck with their second husband in techias hameisim.
I think there are varying teshuvos on the topic without one single answer. It is a matter of debate.
Rabbi Avrohom Gerlitzky wrote about his at length in his sefer ???? ????? ?????.
Here is a section:
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Wonderful, thought-provoking question. ?? ??? that the choshuve avreichim of this forum would forever cease to argue about meshugas like “Biden vs. Trump” or “Zionists vs. Satmar” or “Yeshivish vs. YU” or “Lace-top sheitels” and all the other ????? ??????? ????? ?? ???? (which, to an ?? ???? such as a chiropractor, or an inspirational speaker, or a standard American 2nd-year maggid shiur, or a chassidishe Rebbe, are not only important, but crucial ?????? of the Jewish faith), and people would begin to engage in ???? ????? ????. Learning torah is fun!
The short answer to your question is obviously ??????? ???? ??? ??????? ??? ????? ????. But that’s booooring lol. So let’s get started!
The primary assumptions underlying your questions are A) The assumption that there will be a ???? of ??? ??? during the time of ????? ?????. (R’ Saadya Gaon says that people will get married after ????? ?????) B) The assumption that if A is true, it follows that a woman will still be considered to be married to her previous husband and won’t require another ???????. Whether or not these are true depends on the following. (Absolutely not an exhaustive list):
1) Will ????? be ?????? ????? ????
(??? ?? ??)2) If yes, does this mean that ????? will be ?????? ???? ????? ????? or does it mean simply that a ?? is ???? from ????? while he is dead? ( ?????? between ???? ????? ??? (unless you really want to kvetch a different meaning into it like the Maharatz Chayes says there ???? ?? ?????) and the ????? in ????? by ??? ??? ???? ????? ????)
3) If, in #2, we assume like the former tzad, does this mean that even the ?? ????? ??? ?? will be ???? (Haven’t seen this discussed, but it seems like an obvious kler. Because even ???? ??? ???? there was a ???? of ?????.)
3) If, in #2, we assume like the former tzad, does this mean simply that the commandments will be ????? or that even the institutions, i.e. ?????, ??????, ?????, ???????, ?????, ??????, etc. will be ???? (I have tremendous toirah on this inyan but haven’t seen it discussed. It’s ???? on many, many, many different inyonim all over the ??????? ????? ??????? ???? ????? ????)
3) If there will be a ???? of ??? during ??? ????? ?????, will a woman who is revived be still married to her husband from prior or will she require a new ???????? (This a tremendous inyan and is one of the deepest inyonim in ??? ???? and ?????. There’s a ??????? that the ????? ??????? are very busy with. Check out Reb Meir Simcha in ????? ??????? over there by ?? ???? ??? ???.)
4) If you want, you could also ???? ????? in the ????? that the roshei yeshiva are into about how ???? ???? is ????. Could be it’s ???? to #3. Reb shimon talks abt it in ???? ???? ???.
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Other questions like this include gilgulim. If only one of the two come back as a gilgul, then that also adds another spouse to the mix.
I’ve heard that the neshama splits, which would answer all of those.
Why not spend your time helping widows and widowers, and others, to find shiduchim b’olam haze instead of speculating? The only issue l’maase I see here is that some widows were reluctant to re-marry to 2nd husbands who were not at the level if their first ones. If anyone here is such a lady, please press on. If you are a bachelor wooing such a lady, the solution is simple – be a better mench… Although gemora warns about second marriages – not all etzavim shavim, four people in bed, etc
What about a katlanis who had a zechus to be married to three tzaddikim? Do they form a beis din and vote on her fate?
a relevant story is about widow of R Eleizer who first kept his body in the attic for years and then refused to marry Rebbi – not because Rebbi was not learned enough, but because he did not do enough chesed comparing with her first hubsand.
I may be mistaken but I seem to remember that the Chasam Sofer writes that a woman who remarries automatically is cutting her connection to her first husband (someone correct me if i’m wrong).
Based on that I’d assume that she remains with her second husband, but on the other hand, there are those that write that the zivug as they call it “bashert” (arba’im yom etc), is the first one, and the “zivug kasha kekriyat yam suf” goes on a zivug sheni, which is why it is so hard, because there is no kodem yetziyat havlad considered, rather it is reliant on the zechutim of the person, so in that case it would seem that the first one is the one that the woman would go back to.
As others wrote above, it is a very heavily debated topic in the Poskim, and the answer for now is probably- even though not so exciting, but – teiku.> would agree it is best for the wife to remarry after becoming an almana
I think halakha directs men to remarry, and at the same time assumes that the woman would like to be married. I don’t know whether halakha taki directs women to look for another husband.
Menachem: Would you agree that both sides of the debate, including those that say the wife goes to her second husband, would agree it is best for the wife to remarry after becoming an almana (regardless if she became an almana young or old)?
I have no idea, but that does make sense.
That’s probably why the poskim were trying to find a hetter to go back to the first husband after ???”?, so that she should feel better about getting remarried.Hakatan:
According to shaar hagilgulim a wife returns with her husband to be his bashert in gilgul.
> She may have a strong preference who she wants to be married to after Techiyas Hameisim.
Lost > According to shaar hagilgulimOk, so she might let Hashem know of her preferences when she davens. Why are you spending your energy on figuring out who will be whose wife in olam habo. In this world, halakha presumes that a woman prefers someone to bring (uncooked) food into the house and say kiddush for her. Use your energy on that. Convince your wives to do chesed and add another one.
I have a different, but related question. What if a person, after resurrection, does not want to be married to any spouse that he or she had in the previous life: can they marry someone completely new?
I think she gets to pick
A little more from me. Sifrei Musar say a woman is the rib of her husband while alive . She can return as a rib to multiple men. Anyway thanks for correcting me. I knew it was a Baghdadi.
This whole discussion mixes Torah with Ruchniyus.
They are mutually exclusive and NOT compatible.And this discussion is 100% perfect proof.
We, Yisrael, follow the Torah. Not Ruchniyus.
The Tedokim were right about this one.
This whole discussion mixes Torah with Ruchniyus.
They are mutually exclusive and NOT compatible…
We, Yisrael, follow the Torah. Not Ruchniyus.
The Tedokim were right about this one.Huh? What’s any of this supposed to mean?
2 points.
First, Misah matirs even in this life, certainly after Tchias haMesim. The ONLY question would possibly be by Yibum, if the first brother has tchiya before she and 2nd brother dies. Nothing was matir her, so perhaps you could ask by yibum.But your whole question is based on the wrong assumption that there will be marriage at that time.
The entire purpose of marriage is to have children, and the entire purpose of having children is for continuity of life. In the time of Tchias haMesim, and Bila haMaves laNetzach, there will be no death, and therefore no continuity of life.
(Really, if there is no death, there is no life, as life is defined by death, but that’s a separate point).A proof to this is that which chazal say, bo’u vnachzik tovah la’avosenu, we should appreciate our ancestors who sinned by the Golden Calf, because if not for that, they never would have died, and we would never be born.
No death, no children. No children, no marriage.
I like happy new year’s answer
Makes a lot of sense
I don’t think ujm gets what happy new year is saying
Her ???? is ????
Bring a case not like that
Happy new year,
But your whole question is based on the wrong assumption that there will be marriage at that time.
What’s your source for this?
Based on the teshuvos that I quoted, there will be marriage during ????? ?????, and I have never seen otherwise.
Re your proof from the Gemara (Avoda Zora 5a) about the ???: The Gemara concludes there that they would have children, but since they would live forever, the children would have no importance, because they would always be compared to the greatness of their parents’ generation.
Happy new year,
I found a bunch of sources discussing marriage during ????? ?????:
Google search:
???? ????? ????? ??? ?? – ???? ??? ??????? ??? ????? ?????Should take you to the siman from Rabbi Avrohom Gerlitzky’s ???? ????? ?????.
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