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This week’s parsha tells us of Malachim going up and down on the ladder. Who were they? I’ve fascinating stuff I came across I want to first hear what the ‘olam’ here says.
well you said that you didn’t want to be followed…
Can you post the Chizkuni too?
There is a p’shat that these malaachim going up were the malaachim that were sent to destroy sedom. They were put in cherem b/c they told lot that they were going to destroy sedom and only afterwards mentioned that Hashem sent them. They were finally allowed back to shamayim via this ladder. When they got up to shamayim and saw the face of yaakov on the merkava, they told the other malaachim that “downstairs” there was someone who looked just like that. The malaachim all ran down to check it out.
If you say like LF in #1 that the malaachim of E”Y were going up and Chutz la’aretz were coming down, then it would first say coming down and then say going up b/c yaakov should never be without escorts.
(I believe that this is a Dvar Yechezkel)
Someone beat me to it. From Rabbi Etan Tokayer:
[T]he Targum Yerushami cited by the Chizkuni explains that the malachim escorts were so excited by the presence of Yaakov Avinu that the went up to the Heavens to let all the other malachim know they had the chance to see a celebrity – Yaakov Avinu whose face was engraved on the Kisei Hakavod.”
(B1g B0y, that was this – “Another version reads (I think), malachim who said ?? ??????? ?????, they took credit for themselves, it was they who had to wait for this opportune time.”)
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