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    mw13
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    The cast of “Hamilton”, for delivering a whole sermon about how “alarmed and anxious” they are to Mike Pence, or Trump for taking such offense at the whole thing?

    For 2nd Day, Trump Demands Apology From Cast of ‘Hamilton’

    (BTW, either way Mike Pence wins the increasingly rare title of “Adult”.)

    #1194585

    reuventree555
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    It’s a tie. They both lose.

    #1194586

    flatbusher
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    The cast of Hamilton had a right to say what they did, but it was inappropriate to single out a member of the audience and to use the stage as a platform for a political statement, especially one that expressed unfounded fears. Trump had a right to respond. And you can be sure that sine Trump is a white male, it will be open season on him for anything and everything.

    #1194587

    👑RebYidd23
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    What the cast of Hamilton did is a bit like something Trump would do, but less rude.

    #1194588

    ubiquitin
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    ” use the stage as a platform for a political statement,”

    The entire show is a political statement.

    #1194589

    flatbusher
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    Not really a political statement, but a historical musical. Good chance none of the actors know anything about the real Hamilton. He was very much against immigration, favored having a king, and other things they do not align with their current political views. Also interesting to note that as much as the actor pointed to the diversity in the cast, earlier this year when casting for a touring company of the show, they were specifically were looking for non-whites, which is discriminatory.

    #1194590

    ubiquitin
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    “they were specifically were looking for non-whites, which is discriminatory”

    you really dont think looking “specifically” for non-whites to play George Washington, Aaron Burr And of course Hamilton is a political statement?

    #1194591

    You can argue whether the cast should or should not have done it,

    but the terms Trump used to describe it were certainly exaggerated.

    #1194592

    flatbusher
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    Ubi: Not sure what you’re saying. The musical is not meant to be a political statement but the cast memmbers and I guess casting director are making one.

    #1194593

    ubiquitin
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    “cast memmbers and I guess casting director are making one.”

    Exactly.

    Im not familiar with the musical so I cant speak first hand regarding the specifics of the content. Im not sure why you limit the casting to the casting director. IT isnt exactly an old musical. It was created specificly with a diverse cast in mind as far as I understand. ITs not like their is a shortage of white actors to play thse white historical characters

    As for the content all the reviews IVe read interpret it as political statments of sorts. But I cant speak from first hand knowledge

    #1194594

    Abba_S
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    This is another example of slaughtering the chicken that lays the golden egg. The average price for a seat at a Broadway show is over $100.00. The only ones who can afford it are the rich. By embarrassing the vice president elect they have alienated the GOP whose members are more wealthy and many moderate Democrats. If they decide to boycott the shows, the shows will have to close. This wouldn’t happen overnight as the show is popular and you have to order tickets weeks in advance.

    #1194595

    flatbusher
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    From the sound of audience in the video clip, it didn’t sound like a lot of GOP members there. The show is booked already months in advance, so it is not likely anything that happened at the show will affect its bottom line.

    #1194596

    👑RebYidd23
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    This might actually get more people to see the show even if they can’t afford it.

    #1194597

    yehudayona
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    Abba_S, Broadway audiences are disproportionately wealthy, highly educated Manhattan residents — in other words, Democrats (as Trump used to be, except maybe the highly educated part).

    I saw a clip of the speech, and I thought it was very respectful. Apparently Pence wasn’t offended, so it’s curious that Trump felt a need to be offended on his behalf.

    #1194598

    👑RebYidd23
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    Being offended on the behalf of others who aren’t is mostly a Democrat thing. I guess Trump kept some old habits.

    #1194599

    oomis
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    A person should be able to attend a play without being subjected to a cast’s personal expression of dissatisfaction with a current event. It was neither the time nor place for such expression, it was meant to PUBLICLY embarrass the VP and by extension the President-elect. Mike Pence showed great class, in my opinion. I do not blame Mr. Trump for his reaction. I could not STAND Obama for the last 8 years (or Mr. Biden either who is his puppet), but I would never have shown such disrespect to them, or to the Office of President and Vice-President.

    Methinks these performers are too full of themselves. Don’t blindside someone who came to have a nice night out with his child.

    +1

    #1194600

    oomis
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    I also saw the clip. Just by virtue of it being said at all WHEN it was said, was offensive, even if the words superficially sounded “right” to some.

    #1194601

    oomis
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    Let’s go back to arguing about Tznius, Cholov Yisroel, the Shidduch Crisis, and Loshon Hara. Much safer topics than politics.

    #1194602

    MDG
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    “This is another example of slaughtering the chicken that lays the golden egg. “

    Maybe not. This may be the best form of free advertising for a failing show. Now everybody heard of it.

    #1194603

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    Do people argue about Cholov Yisroel in the CR? I never noticed that. You forgot to mention seminaries.

    I’m glad people are arguing about politics – less LH issues.

    #1194604

    yehudayona
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    MDG, except it isn’t a failing show. It got rave reviews and plenty of people are willing to shell out a bunch of Alexander Hamiltons to see it. When I first heard of Hamilton I was bemused — a hip-hop musical about a guy who died 200 years ago? Then I realized that he had a lot in common with rappers: he was born out of wedlock and he died of a gunshot.

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    Avi K
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    mw13
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