June 1, 2020 1:22 am at 1:22 am #1866167☕️coffee addictParticipant
Just saw the videos from Ywn with the riots in Williamsburg and it looks like there are a lot of white people protesting, what gives?June 1, 2020 7:29 am at 7:29 am #1866306ChalabiJewParticipant
I’m pretty sure the protesters are mostly white , while the looters are notJune 1, 2020 7:29 am at 7:29 am #1866308adar29Participant
AntifaJune 1, 2020 7:46 am at 7:46 am #1866350reform rabbiParticipant
White people don’t like police violence, either. Who likes violent police? Do you like being accosted or intimidated by military acting police?
Probably your neighborhood is mostly white, which is why the protesters are white.June 1, 2020 9:49 am at 9:49 am #18663821Participant
Because they are democratsJune 1, 2020 9:51 am at 9:51 am #1866398JosephParticipant
adar29 correctly and succinctly answered the OP.June 1, 2020 9:51 am at 9:51 am #1866401MilhouseParticipant
What police violence? This is just showing us how much we need police, because they’re all that stands between us and the ravening mob. Without the police they will pick us off at their leisure.June 1, 2020 10:26 am at 10:26 am #1866413JosephParticipant
The police should withdraw from the rioters neighborhood and declare them a no-policing-zone. Let them set up their own security. Everyone else will stay out of their neighborhoods.June 1, 2020 10:48 am at 10:48 am #1866429Someone in MonseyParticipant
The white protesters are, almost universally, young people. They’re the product of an overly indulgent society, where personal responsibility is not the ideal, self-gratification is. Add to that the fact that popular culture has been heavily influenced by black liberation ideology and you have your answer.June 1, 2020 11:48 am at 11:48 am #1866438lowerourtuition11210Participant
Social Justice WarriorsJune 1, 2020 11:50 am at 11:50 am #1866440☕️coffee addictParticipant
Have you seen the videos of the looting of target, I saw a lot of white people (especially with the meme of the guy taking a lego set)
“Probably your neighborhood is mostly white, which is why the protesters are white.“
My comment was on a video that I saw on Ywn (if you read my OP you would have known that
Adar29 and joe
I assume that too I just want to know what the other side thinksJune 1, 2020 11:50 am at 11:50 am #1866456mobicoParticipant
Also, there are white supremacists and other groups who for their own reasons are working to make the blacks look bad.June 1, 2020 11:50 am at 11:50 am #1866457The little I knowParticipant
These animals are not rioting in their own neighborhood. They are rioting in the places with businesses, and they don’t live there. The destruction is not anyone eliminating their own stores. They are doing it to yours and mine. My only answer would be lethal force. Nothing else stops wild animals. Don’t bore me with excuses for their anger. They are domestic terrorists, and there is no successful approach besides deadly force. Trouble is, the Democrats support them. I wish these Dems to be victims of this violence.June 1, 2020 11:51 am at 11:51 am #1866462June 5, 2020 1:11 pm at 1:11 pm #1868369
In most of the videos of looting I have seen the looters have been almost all white. Did anyone see the surfboards being removed from the store in Santa Monica, California? *All* the looters were white and they didn’t look poor.
I did see videos of dark skinned looters in the Bronx, some as close as two miles from where I live. With NYPD looking on, not seeming to care. Busting rioting in wealthy neighborhoods but letting poor minority neighborhoods get ransacked is not something that makes one think that the police care about all of us.June 5, 2020 2:44 pm at 2:44 pm #1868397
does this mean that the looting and rioting actually is ruining the black community more than its helping them?
If so, why are the black leaders and liberal politicians turning a blind eye towards the looting?June 5, 2020 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm #1868404
Oh Charlie, -“*All* the looters were white and they didn’t look poor.”
And what do you think – how they & their Families vote?
Liberal Demoncrat or Conservative Republican?!?June 5, 2020 5:03 pm at 5:03 pm #1868431
“why are the black leaders and liberal politicians turning a blind eye towards the looting?”
They aren’t, but thanks for the bigoted generalization.June 5, 2020 5:03 pm at 5:03 pm #1868433
“there are white supremacists and other groups who for their own reasons are working to make the blacks look bad”
A bunch of Boogaloo Bois have in fact been busted for doing just that. They are the right wing version of Antifa, but better armed. They aren’t an actual organization just a bunch of people with nutty right wing ideas who like to riot.June 5, 2020 5:04 pm at 5:04 pm #1868436
“what do you think – how they & their Families vote?”
Why would that matter? They are every bit as crooked as Trump.
No, actually not as much; his crimes are far worse, as is the amount that he has stolen over his career.June 5, 2020 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #1868452
Oh Charlie -“No, actually not as much; his crimes are far worse, as is the amount that he has stolen over his career.”
If anyone is Claiming that Trump has Stolen something, let them file a complaint with the Right Authorities.
These FALSE Accusations are what’s fuelling the Social Unrest in our Day & Age.June 5, 2020 7:47 pm at 7:47 pm #1868456
“ They aren’t, but thanks for the bigoted generalization.”
Your a funny guy, you claim that what I stated is incorrect, and therefore labeled my statement as bigoted.
Wonderful, now please back up your assertion that the black community leaders actually and democrats came out against the violence and looting.
Al Sharpton said the following. “ We don’t have a problem denouncing violence, Mr. Governor, we don’t have a problem, Mr. Mayor, denouncing looting, but it seems like some in the criminal justice system have a problem looking at a tape and knowing there’s probable cause and it takes a long time for you to go and do what you see that you need to do.”
But never told anyone to stop looting.
You may call this bigoted, I call this screwed up.June 5, 2020 7:48 pm at 7:48 pm #1868460
What about what I said was bigoted, in fact, by you labeling my question as bigoted is an act of bigotry.
Does the data support systemic institutional racism?
Does the data support systemic police racism?
Are these questions bigoted?June 8, 2020 9:15 am at 9:15 am #1869054hujuParticipant
I don’t know if most rioters are white, but if they are, maybe it’s because they do not fear being beaten by cops.June 8, 2020 9:43 am at 9:43 am #1869068
“I don’t know if most rioters are white, but if they are, maybe it’s because they do not fear being beaten by cops.”
That is one assumption, another might be that they are using these times as a means to do what they want to do, which is loot and riot.
In my area, there were only peaceful protests and gatherings, it was nice and unifying. No stealing, no looting, no negativity.
The looting and rioting obscures whatever positive and constructive message there, it makes people discount the rallies and have a very negative view on all of this.
I personally have not seen anything reported that would indicate that the black people are being beaten by cops any more than white people, not during these rallies and not in general.June 8, 2020 3:13 pm at 3:13 pm #1869220hujuParticipant
To 2scents: If you do not think that cops treat black people harsher than they treat us white folks, you have not been paying attention.
I have had 2 run-ins with cops involving traffic violations. In both cases, I was in the wrong, and in both cases I was treated appropriately. In one case I had a prescription drug in my pocket, which they found when they asked me to empty my pockets. I had no proof of the prescription in my possession, but the cops did not press the issue. In both cases, I was dressed in a suit, tie and trench coat. All this proves nothing, except maybe that I look like such a weenie that I don’t scare cops.
EditedJune 9, 2020 11:02 am at 11:02 am #1869540som1Participant
the fact that there are 5 times more black people arrested then white means nothing because there are also 5 times more crimes by blacks then whites!!
IN FACT study’s that show that an unarmed white man is twice as likely to be shot then an unarmed black manJune 9, 2020 2:58 pm at 2:58 pm #1869719
“To 2scents: If you do not think that cops treat black people harsher than they treat us white folks, you have not been paying attention”
I have been paying attention, and I have not noticed anything that would indicate what you are implying, that there is harsher treatment against black people.June 16, 2020 10:27 am at 10:27 am #1873000The Shady CharediParticipant
To address the original question here, “Why are the rioters overwhelmingly white?”
One of the answers is, that ‘the problem of racism’ and of ‘police brutality’ is far far more an assumed perception of white liberals inventing a cause to fight for, far more than it really exists. All these social justice warriors will fight for their created underprivileged masses even if it hurts them.
See these street interviews for example, where the interviewer first speaks to the white libs to hear their [racist] concern for the ‘underprivileged’, and then he speaks to that actual demographic themselves to get their true feelings.
June 17, 2020 9:33 am at 9:33 am #1873347
Trump had to pay out two million for improper management of his non-profit. There are about 30 investigations surrounding his assets today. He has faced nearly 4000 lawsuits. What is your point?June 17, 2020 9:34 am at 9:34 am #1873348
“IN FACT study’s that show that an unarmed white man is twice as likely to be shot then an unarmed black man”
Mathematical correction. Twice as often. Given that white population is over four times the black population, a black man is 8 times more likely to be shot by police than a white man. [I used google to find your ‘study’. It says twice as many.] The same mathematical error appears in the first point you made. That point is still valid, if overstated.June 17, 2020 10:47 am at 10:47 am #1873454
nOmesorah -“Trump had to pay out two million for improper management of his non-profit. There are about 30 investigations surrounding his assets today. He has faced nearly 4000 lawsuits. What is your point?”
If you went to college or university, you’d know the difference between a Tort & a Crime!June 19, 2020 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm #1874426
“college or university” If you say so, I would not make such assumptions.
Back to the the sanctity of other people’s property. It does not matter to me the term. Are you so anti ethics, that all those grievances can be dismissed because there is no obvious criminality?June 21, 2020 12:41 am at 12:41 am #1874660
nOmesorah -“Are you so anti ethics, that all those grievances can be dismissed because there is no obvious criminality?”
You can’t take a post out of context!
I was responding to Charlie:
“his crimes are far worse, as is the amount that he has stolen over his career.”
No one accused him of a Crime, Besides Charlie!June 21, 2020 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm #1874815som1Participant
nomesorah-“Mathematical correction. Twice as often. Given that white population is over four times the black population, a black man is 8 times more likely to be shot by police than a white man”
thats not true its taking in to account the percentage of interactions between cops and blacks (unarmed) vs cops and whites (unarmed)June 23, 2020 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm #1875613
“That’s not true…” I read up a bit. Blacks are over represented in police shootings relative to general population. Blacks are underrepresented in scenarios that include mental illness (by far the most defined category) and ‘suicide by cop’. (Second largest category. The majority are white, only four cases were blacks.) Blacks had the highest percentage of being unarmed. Source: National Library of Medicine PMID: 27745606
If I read your point correctly, you mean that blacks being eight times more likely to be shot by police unarmed than a white person. Agreed. If you want to point to all cases, than it is twice as often that a white man is shot. But only twice as likely for a black man. Unless you were referring to homicides in the general population.June 25, 2020 11:07 pm at 11:07 pm #1876808☢️ 🚭 ☣️ Rand0m3x 🧠🕴️🎲Participant
The white protesters are, almost universally, young people. They’re the product of an
overly indulgent society, where personal responsibility is not the ideal, self-gratification is.
Yep, just look at them self-gratifying out there on the street.
But never told anyone to stop looting.
As we all know, the way to stop looting is to say “Looter no looting!” 3 times in quick succession.
Does the data support systemic police racism?
To some extent. If an AI can tell the race of a driver from the transcript of a traffic stop
(with all non-racial factors for disparity ruled out), then you’ve got to wonder, eh?
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