October 19, 2021 7:52 am at 7:52 am #2018323ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤParticipant
We ask this question as a joke but i was wondering is there a legit answer or is it default male.
-The FarbiOctober 19, 2021 8:04 am at 8:04 am #2018361ujmParticipant
The greatest quality of women is being tzanuah.October 19, 2021 9:58 am at 9:58 am #2018391CTRebbeParticipant
Sons is lav davka. The mitzvah is “vehigadita lebincha” which applies to daughter too.
A better question is why we don’t make a drasha to say “lebincha vlo lbnosecha” like we do by the miztva of learning Torah?October 19, 2021 9:58 am at 9:58 am #2018392lowerourtuition11210Participant
Kol kevuda bas melech penimoOctober 19, 2021 9:59 am at 9:59 am #2018403MindfulParticipant
Tzanuah means absent?
Women are not absent from the Pesach story or from Tanach or Talmud. But today its tottaly normal to call discrimination against women Tznius. Tznius has tottaly lost its meaning.
I don’t know why there are no daughters in the Hagadah, but its definitely not related to tznius. Women should be able to talk and ask questions in their own home, from their own father. And the Torah has plenty of instances of this.October 19, 2021 1:20 pm at 1:20 pm #2018494
The Sefer Hachinuch Mitzva 21 says that the telling to your son also includes the telling to anyone. So, the Torah many times talks about the usual, dibrah hatorah behoveh as the sons are responsible to perpetuate the mesorah. Rabbi Moshe in Ingos Moshe (5,20) says that women can be motzi men sippur yetzias mitzraim as they are also responsible. For the family, women should also be able to ask questions.October 19, 2021 1:47 pm at 1:47 pm #2018566
CTRebbe, limudim come with logic. A girl is also a Jew and needs to be trained. Learning Torah is a mitzva on its own for men but for women it is to know how to do their mitzvas, therefore gemora is not really required and they can do their mitzvas because they were commanded.October 19, 2021 2:04 pm at 2:04 pm #2018575NoveltyParticipant
I think your issue is that you are thinking of this in English terms.
In Lashon Hakodesh, the word “banim” can mean “sons” or it can be inclusive of both genders, meaning “children.” For an example, “banim atem l’Hashem — you are children of Hashem.”October 19, 2021 2:20 pm at 2:20 pm #2018585Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
First, the daughters are helping the mother to make the matza balls and may not have time to wait until all older siblings sign their fir kashes
2nd, in some homes, women would be sitting in a separate room from the father and it is indeed not proper to shout from another room for any gender.
Also, girls may not require so much proding, they’ll listen and feel the story without a need to show off their sharp questions.October 19, 2021 3:29 pm at 3:29 pm #2018596philosopherParticipant
Novelty, good point. That is true, bunim can mean any gender. Google translate translates בנים from Ivrit (which I’m sure is used the same way in L”H) to “child, girl, daughter, …etc.in addition to “boys”.October 19, 2021 4:14 pm at 4:14 pm #2018649ujmParticipant
Ivrit isn’t the same as Loshon Kodesh.October 19, 2021 5:36 pm at 5:36 pm #2018685mesivta bachurParticipant
ujm please don’t get caught up in semantics.October 19, 2021 5:37 pm at 5:37 pm #2018687☕️coffee addictParticipant
I agree with AAQ’s first answerOctober 19, 2021 7:36 pm at 7:36 pm #2018742philosopherParticipant
Ujm, I didn’t say the two languages are totally alike. I said “I’m sure it’s used in the same way in L”H”. Ivrit doesn’t have the same grammar rules and has more words and different phrases than Loshen Hakodesh, but for the most part, L”H words used in Ivrit mean the same in both languages.October 20, 2021 11:28 am at 11:28 am #2018972
The word asar or makom.
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