January 9, 2011 3:56 am at 3:56 am #594062
Not posting…just titling!January 9, 2011 2:13 pm at 2:13 pm #726090truth be toldMember
Excuse me Rabbonit eclips. What type of “white” lie. You would’nt by any chance mean “I’m not gonna post” and then post, right?January 9, 2011 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #726091
I tried,valiantly…January 9, 2011 3:10 pm at 3:10 pm #726092RuphRuphMember
I think people confuse lie with joke. Instead of saying, I was just joking, say, I was just lying.January 9, 2011 3:27 pm at 3:27 pm #726093aries2756Participant
Some people habitually lie. The first lie is always the hardest but once you get past it and you go for the next and keep going without guilt, it becomes a habit and you just lie about everything. Once a liar always a liar. They will lie about how much sugar is in a recipe, how much time it took to drive somewhere, how much something cost, how much they ate, how old they are. It doesn’t matter the subject, they wouldn’t know the truth if it stared them in the face.January 9, 2011 3:39 pm at 3:39 pm #726094
Aries,I noticed that too.People lie even when they gain nothing from it!Truth and fiction become one.Pathological,basically.January 9, 2011 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm #726095popa_bar_abbaParticipant
Instead of saying, I was just joking, say, I was just lying.
I do say that.January 9, 2011 8:20 pm at 8:20 pm #726096MDGParticipant
Any sin which is sometimes permitted will be abused.
Lying is one of them. One can change the truth for the sake of peace. Well, once you go down that slippery slope, you can fall all the way down.
One may get involved in Machloket for the sake of Hashem, which may include speaking L”H. The problem is, again, that once there is permission in a limited way, it doesn’t always stop there. (heard from Rav Frand)January 9, 2011 8:37 pm at 8:37 pm #726097smartcookieMember
A white lie is a lie. Pple just justify their lies by saying that it was ONLY a white lie!
White lie, black lie, red lie, green lie- who cares!!
Midvar Sheker Tirchak.January 9, 2011 8:37 pm at 8:37 pm #726098SJSinNYCMember
People generally permit that which they themselves do.
These include small lies, small theft (like not paying tax), small bits of lashon hara (I mean, its not really LH right? I can probably try to trick myself into believing that)January 9, 2011 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm #726099RuphRuphMember
Are you joking:?)January 9, 2011 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm #726100Sender AvMember
Aries, do you think you could recognize such a person? I can only do so once I get to know them really well.
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