Why did NYC choose a Mayor like Bill De blasio?

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    Haimy
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    Why would a city like NY choose an incompetent person to lead them? Any reason to be optimistic that the next Mayor will be more qualified? Why is it so hard to find an effective person to lead a city of over 8 million people?

    #1875914
    ms
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    blindly democratic

    #1875921
    Joseph
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    With the very notable exception of the election and assumption of office by America’s Mayor Rudy Giuliani, ever since Ed Koch left office New York has gotten a worse mayor than the one he replaced in every transfer of power.

    #1875991
    akuperma
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    A liability of a democracy (small “d”) is that the voters sometimes make bad choices. Note that in World War II, in which the losers entered into what turned out to be a hopeless suicidal war, the three Axis powers were all led by democratically elected leaders (and one continued to have free elections even during the war). The fact the most of New York is still standing indicates that De Blaso would be worse.

    #1876022

    Similar to the old saying about a prosecutor indicting a “ham sandwich”, all one generally needs to be elected Mayor of NYC is a (D) after his name and some previous name recognition in public service.

    #1876039
    Someone in Monsey
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    It goes beyond incompetence. De Blasio is a leftist and leftists have flowery rhetoric. More than that, they’re unparalleled liars. They promise everyone utopia and people want to believe in a world where everything’s sweet like candy, so they vote for it, not understanding that it’s impossible.

    There are two underlying reasons why people vote this way – they’re either unintelligent and can’t discern the difference between good sense and foolishness and so are easily swayed by these leftist Svengalis, or they never take the time to look at things as they are, so as to perceive what’s appropriate for society’s well-being. It usually takes a severe shock to get a leftist voter to change his mode of thinking.

    #1876060
    Joseph
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    Y’all know the old saying — A conservative is a liberal who got mugged.

    #1876073
    charliehall
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    Because the Republicans who ran against him were far worse.

    #1876225
    MosheFromMidwood
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    It is worth noting that just four months before the election, De Blasio polled at around 5%. New Yorkers are so far left that apparently they took a liking to him once he showed how far left he is. He has been a terrible mayor and sadly there does not appear anyone on the horizon who will prove to be much of an improvement once he is out of office by the end of his second, disastrous term.

    #1876277
    ☕️coffee addict
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    “Because the Republicans who ran against him were far worse“

    It can’t be that a college professor sounds like this it has to be an impostor

    Are you saying the democrat primary when deblasio was running (either first or second time) was unopposed

    #1876462
    Yankl
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    Amongst other reasons is because he promised to abolish the Gzeirah of M’Bpeh & B”H succeeded, though I do appreciate that he’s a leftist which doesn’t contribute much to society

    #1876493
    Joseph
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    Like I said, De Blasio is overall an Oheiv Yisroel despite being a deep leftist. (See, I can recognize this attribute in people other than the President and Republicans.) The mayor is bad for the city overall but has been good, generally, on religious issues.

    That said, the next mayor will be much worse in all regards. Y’all will be wishing De Blasio had a third term.

    #1876727
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Joe,

    The mayor is an oheiv yisrael?

    What planet are you from?

    Telling Frum families to leave the park while demonstrators are a few feet away

    Talking down to Reuvain Borchardt at simple questions

    Not doing anything to stop blacks punching Frum yidden

    Deblasio is an oheiv his office and he used the Jewish vote to get there

    With ohavim like deblasio who needs enemies

    #1876829
    charliehall
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    No he had divided opposition in the primary. Which he won because of strong support from Borough Park and Crown Heights.

    #1876830
    charliehall
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    A rare example where I agree with Joseph.

    #1876831
    charliehall
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    “Why would a city like NY choose an incompetent person to lead them?”

    He actually has had successes: Ferries, building more housing, universal preK, lowest homicide rates in over 70 years.

    One might better ask, “Why would a country like the United States choose an incompetent person to lead them? “Trump has had one failure after another and no successes.”

    #1876832
    charliehall
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    The Axis powers did not have Democratically elected leaders during WW2.

    #1876839
    charliehall
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    Protecting metzitzah be peh, ensuring that yeshivot can continue to ignore secular education mandates and funneling money to frum causes.

    Those are what your community leaders deem important.

    If you don’t like that you might want to consider another community. I am modern orthodox rather than a part of thg e Yeshiva world so we aren’t bound to listen to our leaders in non-halachic matters but I think I am a minority here.

    #1876939
    commonsaychel
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    @charlie hall, you forgot to write he hugged Avi Weiss as one of the things he did for the Frum community.
    Besides Mitzizah he did nothing for the Frum community, the blocking the education report was a quid pro quo for something he wanted from Felder.
    The mayor does not allocate a dime its all from the City Council, so he didn’t “funnel money” to any group.

    #1876973
    Joseph
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    De Blasio was previously the city councilman for part of large frum neighborhoods. He has a history of helping Yidden on religious and financial issues.

    #1877057
    charliehall
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    I just looked up the polls from the 2013 primary. The ne poll, by Marist, in May 2013 had De Blasio at 12%, not under 5%. Quinn was ahead with 24% and Weiner was second with 19%. De Blasio seems to have won by picking up most of Weiner’s support.

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