May 23, 2022 10:52 pm at 10:52 pm #2090044CHOOSIDParticipant
What’s with Litvocks always saying Tachnun??May 23, 2022 11:20 pm at 11:20 pm #2090076yungermanSParticipant
They don’t say during the entire month of Nissan.
Maybe on other days that chassidim don’t say like on rebbes yahrtzeitMay 23, 2022 11:21 pm at 11:21 pm #2090078
I am not a litvak but why do chasiddim find excuses not say like in hod or a rebbes yahr zeit?May 23, 2022 11:21 pm at 11:21 pm #2090086n0mesorahParticipant
We have to beg Hashem to forgive you for always skipping it.May 23, 2022 11:45 pm at 11:45 pm #2090092Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
disagree – Litvakim do not say tachanun and have a l’chaim on all yohrtzeits of all litvishe Rebbes! the rest 355 days of the year, they say tachanun and learn.May 24, 2022 12:21 am at 12:21 am #2090101motchah11Participant
Basically, because in Halachah it says to say Tachanun most days. You need to ask the question: Why do Chassidim hardly ever say Tachanun? I’m a Chosid and I don’t know the answer to that.May 24, 2022 8:08 am at 8:08 am #2090150ipchamistabraParticipant
The Radoshitser Rebbe, known in his day as ‘der kleiner Baal Shem Tov’ urged everyone to say tachnun. He explained that neglecting it resulted in the extreme poverty people suffered. He would tell people to calculate how many times they had omitted it, and then say it that many times.
Apart from that, in many areas chasidim did not have a habit of not saying itMay 24, 2022 8:16 am at 8:16 am #2090187mobicoParticipant
Why do Chasidim always say Shemoneh Esrei?May 24, 2022 9:27 am at 9:27 am #2090224SirAyaParticipant
I believe chasidim don’t say it because it is very powerful and if not said correctly can be dangerous.(Kaf Hachayim).
I heard in Detroit that Reb Leib Zatzal was very makpid to say tachnun, because when in Shang Hi it was felt that is was very needed.May 24, 2022 9:36 am at 9:36 am #2090237RockyParticipant
The better question is why does YWN allow such obvious trolls?May 24, 2022 9:51 am at 9:51 am #2090244
“The better question is why does YWN allow such obvious trolls?”
Because the editors are hoping that Elon Musk will make an unsolicited offer to purchase YWN given that he is likely to walk away from the Twitter deal. The valuation of a social media site is based in large part on the number of postings and active users they can sell to advertisers. Trolls are good for what the investment bankers call “engagement” (aka how long users stays on the site). More trolls means more engagement means the stock options held by the Mods will will be worth a fortune.May 24, 2022 11:15 am at 11:15 am #2090306lowerourtuition11210Participant
Harav Pinchos Teitz of AgudasIsrael Beis Binyamin was known to say if people knew the power of Tachnun they would find reasons to say it.May 24, 2022 11:49 am at 11:49 am #2090322
The gemora in Bava Metzia in Perek Hazahav describes the power of Tachnun where Rebbi Eilezer was the brother in law of Rabon Gamliel. The wife of Rebbi Eliezer did not allow him to fall on his face in order not to hurt her brother. One day she miscalculated and she told him get up you just killed my brother. Be careful if you have taanus against someone, one did something bad to you, not to hurt them through tachnun.May 24, 2022 11:55 am at 11:55 am #2090330Yabia OmerParticipant
Tachnun is a reshus, not a complete chiyuv.May 24, 2022 12:31 pm at 12:31 pm #2090337lakewhutParticipant
Sir Aya what gives chasidim the right to make these svarahs?May 24, 2022 12:31 pm at 12:31 pm #2090336
Maybe according to the holy Berditchever ztz’l who said that we can accomplish the same results with simcha as with sadness. When we are happy with a mitzva, we make above, Hashem happy which allows us to ask anything we require.May 24, 2022 1:24 pm at 1:24 pm #2090353besalelParticipant
Because Mitzvah Gedola Lihyos Besimcha. The Litvish are never happy so they are oyver this mitzvah so they need to reprent by saying tachnun which makes them sad because theyre saying tachnun. Its a vicious cycle.
DISCLAIMER: This post is a joke that plays on popular stereotypes and is not meant literally.May 24, 2022 4:31 pm at 4:31 pm #2090414midwesternerParticipant
Assuming Lowertuition meant Pinchos Breuer,May 24, 2022 4:56 pm at 4:56 pm #2090423
Besalel: Thanks for the disclaimer. Otherwise, some might have quickly jumped to the conclusion that you are one of those blatantly anti-misnaged litvish-haters who lurk here in the CR seeking to discredit anyone who doesn’t wear streimlach and bekeshes.May 24, 2022 8:07 pm at 8:07 pm #2090453TS BaumParticipant
Why do litvacks not say ashamnu?May 24, 2022 9:50 pm at 9:50 pm #2090501CHOOSIDParticipant
EVRYBODY LISTENING UP!!!!!!! THEARE ARE REAL REASONS NOT TO SAY TACHNUN!!!
*On the yahrtzeit of a rebbe with connection to the group (either a previous rebbe, or someone with substantial influence on the group or that town’s inhabitants).
*On days when special joyous events happened to their past rebbes, e.g. they were freed from prison or concentration camp, or a decree affecting them was abolished.
IF THERE IS A BRIS IN THE SHULE NO TACHNUN….AND A BIG CHASSIDUS LIKE SKVER WHICH HAS ONE SHULE HAS A BRIS ALMOST EVREY DAY!!!!!!!!CHAZZAKAH THEY DONT NEED TO SAY TACHNUN!!
The minhag of many Chassidish kehilos is not to say tachanun at mincha!!!A number of explanations are offered:
They often daven until after shkiya, and according to many opinions tachanun may not be said after shkiya, so a blanket rule was instituted so as never to come to saying after shkiya, which in some kabbalistic sources danger is associated with this practice.
Tachanun by mincha requires intense concentration, which most people don’t have in the middle of their day.
CHASSIDEM HAVE REASONS FOR WHAT THEY DO!!!!!!!!!!ENOUGH OF LITVOCKS TELLING US WHAT DO DO!!!May 24, 2022 11:43 pm at 11:43 pm #2090584n0mesorahParticipant
We don’t tell you what to do. We do our best to clean up your mess.May 25, 2022 9:44 am at 9:44 am #2090725
“Why do litvacks not say ashamnu?..
For the same reason they say UuuuuuMiiiiine!May 25, 2022 12:13 pm at 12:13 pm #2090805Avram in MDParticipant
I’m not telling anyone what to do, but why does a tefilla that takes no more than 3 minutes at mincha and 60% of weekday shacharis, and 7-10 minutes on Monday and Thursday mornings cause so much consternation? There is a palpable ripple of relief in the room when tachanun is unexpectedly skipped, like people driving up to a toll bridge and finding the tolls temporarily suspended. I’m speaking to myself as well, because I feel it too. But we’re asking Hashem to be completely at His mercy and not at the mercy of anyone else, which should cause us to feel relief.May 30, 2022 9:09 am at 9:09 am #2092426shlucha22Participant
I’ve always been led to understand that the reason for not saying tachanun on certain days is because the speciality of the day achieves what tachanun would normally achieve (same idea of why we don’t blow shofar when Rosh Hashana is on shabbos because shabbos achieves what shofar would have). So by chassidim there are lots of special days that are holy enough that tachanun isn’t needed.May 30, 2022 10:47 am at 10:47 am #2092444☕️coffee addictParticipant
Did chassidim say tachnun yesterday?
What about Yom haatzmaut?May 30, 2022 11:46 am at 11:46 am #2092457Avram in MDParticipant
“Did chassidim say tachnun yesterday?”
We didn’t say tachanun yesterday, though after being mevarchim hachodesh we did still say Av harachamim before ashrei.May 30, 2022 1:23 pm at 1:23 pm #2092492ujmParticipant
Please define who is, and what makes one, a “Litvak”?
There aren’t too many around.May 30, 2022 4:41 pm at 4:41 pm #2092557☕️coffee addictParticipant
“We didn’t say tachanun yesterday, though after being mevarchim hachodesh we did still say Av harachamim before ashrei.“
Yesterday was Sunday
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