WHY DO LITVOCKS ALWAYS SAY TACHNUN??

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  • #2090044
    CHOOSID
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    What’s with Litvocks always saying Tachnun??

    #2090076
    yungermanS
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    They don’t say during the entire month of Nissan.

    Maybe on other days that chassidim don’t say like on rebbes yahrtzeit

    #2090078
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    I am not a litvak but why do chasiddim find excuses not say like in hod or a rebbes yahr zeit?

    #2090086
    n0mesorah
    Participant

    We have to beg Hashem to forgive you for always skipping it.

    #2090092

    disagree – Litvakim do not say tachanun and have a l’chaim on all yohrtzeits of all litvishe Rebbes! the rest 355 days of the year, they say tachanun and learn.

    #2090101
    motchah11
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    Basically, because in Halachah it says to say Tachanun most days. You need to ask the question: Why do Chassidim hardly ever say Tachanun? I’m a Chosid and I don’t know the answer to that.

    #2090150
    ipchamistabra
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    The Radoshitser Rebbe, known in his day as ‘der kleiner Baal Shem Tov’ urged everyone to say tachnun. He explained that neglecting it resulted in the extreme poverty people suffered. He would tell people to calculate how many times they had omitted it, and then say it that many times.
    Apart from that, in many areas chasidim did not have a habit of not saying it

    #2090187
    mobico
    Participant

    Why do Chasidim always say Shemoneh Esrei?

    #2090224
    SirAya
    Participant

    I believe chasidim don’t say it because it is very powerful and if not said correctly can be dangerous.(Kaf Hachayim).
    I heard in Detroit that Reb Leib Zatzal was very makpid to say tachnun, because when in Shang Hi it was felt that is was very needed.

    #2090237
    Rocky
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    The better question is why does YWN allow such obvious trolls?

    #2090244
    Gadolhadorah
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    “The better question is why does YWN allow such obvious trolls?”

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    #2090306

    Harav Pinchos Teitz of AgudasIsrael Beis Binyamin was known to say if people knew the power of Tachnun they would find reasons to say it.

    #2090322
    Reb Eliezer
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    The gemora in Bava Metzia in Perek Hazahav describes the power of Tachnun where Rebbi Eilezer was the brother in law of Rabon Gamliel. The wife of Rebbi Eliezer did not allow him to fall on his face in order not to hurt her brother. One day she miscalculated and she told him get up you just killed my brother. Be careful if you have taanus against someone, one did something bad to you, not to hurt them through tachnun.

    #2090330
    Yabia Omer
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    Tachnun is a reshus, not a complete chiyuv.

    #2090337
    lakewhut
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    Sir Aya what gives chasidim the right to make these svarahs?

    #2090336
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    Maybe according to the holy Berditchever ztz’l who said that we can accomplish the same results with simcha as with sadness. When we are happy with a mitzva, we make above, Hashem happy which allows us to ask anything we require.

    #2090353
    besalel
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    Because Mitzvah Gedola Lihyos Besimcha. The Litvish are never happy so they are oyver this mitzvah so they need to reprent by saying tachnun which makes them sad because theyre saying tachnun. Its a vicious cycle.

    DISCLAIMER: This post is a joke that plays on popular stereotypes and is not meant literally.

    #2090414
    midwesterner
    Participant

    Assuming Lowertuition meant Pinchos Breuer,

    #2090423
    Gadolhadorah
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    Besalel: Thanks for the disclaimer. Otherwise, some might have quickly jumped to the conclusion that you are one of those blatantly anti-misnaged litvish-haters who lurk here in the CR seeking to discredit anyone who doesn’t wear streimlach and bekeshes.

    #2090453
    TS Baum
    Participant

    Why do litvacks not say ashamnu?

    #2090501
    CHOOSID
    Participant

    EVRYBODY LISTENING UP!!!!!!! THEARE ARE REAL REASONS NOT TO SAY TACHNUN!!!
    Most Chassidim:
    *On the yahrtzeit of a rebbe with connection to the group (either a previous rebbe, or someone with substantial influence on the group or that town’s inhabitants).
    *On days when special joyous events happened to their past rebbes, e.g. they were freed from prison or concentration camp, or a decree affecting them was abolished.
    IF THERE IS A BRIS IN THE SHULE NO TACHNUN….AND A BIG CHASSIDUS LIKE SKVER WHICH HAS ONE SHULE HAS A BRIS ALMOST EVREY DAY!!!!!!!!CHAZZAKAH THEY DONT NEED TO SAY TACHNUN!!
    The minhag of many Chassidish kehilos is not to say tachanun at mincha!!!A number of explanations are offered:
    They often daven until after shkiya, and according to many opinions tachanun may not be said after shkiya, so a blanket rule was instituted so as never to come to saying after shkiya, which in some kabbalistic sources danger is associated with this practice.
    Tachanun by mincha requires intense concentration, which most people don’t have in the middle of their day.
    CHASSIDEM HAVE REASONS FOR WHAT THEY DO!!!!!!!!!!ENOUGH OF LITVOCKS TELLING US WHAT DO DO!!!

    #2090584
    n0mesorah
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    We don’t tell you what to do. We do our best to clean up your mess.

    #2090725
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    “Why do litvacks not say ashamnu?..

    For the same reason they say UuuuuuMiiiiine!

    #2090805
    Avram in MD
    Participant

    I’m not telling anyone what to do, but why does a tefilla that takes no more than 3 minutes at mincha and 60% of weekday shacharis, and 7-10 minutes on Monday and Thursday mornings cause so much consternation? There is a palpable ripple of relief in the room when tachanun is unexpectedly skipped, like people driving up to a toll bridge and finding the tolls temporarily suspended. I’m speaking to myself as well, because I feel it too. But we’re asking Hashem to be completely at His mercy and not at the mercy of anyone else, which should cause us to feel relief.

    #2092426
    shlucha22
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    I’ve always been led to understand that the reason for not saying tachanun on certain days is because the speciality of the day achieves what tachanun would normally achieve (same idea of why we don’t blow shofar when Rosh Hashana is on shabbos because shabbos achieves what shofar would have). So by chassidim there are lots of special days that are holy enough that tachanun isn’t needed.

    #2092444
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Did chassidim say tachnun yesterday?

    What about Yom haatzmaut?

    #2092457
    Avram in MD
    Participant

    coffee addict,

    “Did chassidim say tachnun yesterday?”

    We didn’t say tachanun yesterday, though after being mevarchim hachodesh we did still say Av harachamim before ashrei.

    #2092492
    ujm
    Participant

    Please define who is, and what makes one, a “Litvak”?

    There aren’t too many around.

    #2092557
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Avram,

    “We didn’t say tachanun yesterday, though after being mevarchim hachodesh we did still say Av harachamim before ashrei.“

    Yesterday was Sunday

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