Why does Israel abuse frum people
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October 27, 2021 1:14 pm at 1:14 pm #2021411RomainParticipant
Israel brakes into a shul in the middle of Davening brutal aresting
People over nose complains a resting hundreds of jews for
Peucfuly protesting about the light rail, demolishing a goal hadors
Sukah, forcefully making yemenites seculah, 40 million shekels to the reformers, beating up a 12 year old boy at a protest over insultement complaints this is just a few cases compared to what
There is, there is thousands of more cases of this through the
History of the state of Israel.
Why do they do this ¿ what on earth do they think they are going to gainOctober 27, 2021 4:09 pm at 4:09 pm #2021523HaKatanParticipant
The Zionists hate real Judaism because Zionism is all about replacing Judaism with Zionism, as can be seen on the WZO’s web site and elsewhere.
The Zionists, in addition to being heretics who shmad Jews, are also influenced by and have practiced various secular philosophies like Nietzsche’s uber-mensch, which is partly why they hold so much disdain for, and acted so abominably towards, the Yemenites and others.
Does that somewhat answer your questions?October 27, 2021 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm #2021516CTRebbeParticipant
Ask the other way-do frum people in Israel do anything to draw anger and hatred against themselves?
Do the frum people in Israel ever say thank you for all the support they receive for yeshivot?
It is very easy to play the victim card. It is harder to look in the mirror and ask what you can do differentlyOctober 27, 2021 4:11 pm at 4:11 pm #2021505MindfulParticipant
Israeli government is abusing everyone, don’t think you are special!
But you are mixing up a lot of different historic and and modern events that are unrelated at all. And some of them have nothing ti do do with abusing frum people – funding reform is not abuse of frum people. It’s like saying funding orthodox is abuse of reform people! Government should not be funding religion, period. And why would charedim ask for Israeli taxpayers to fund their spiritual needs? Doesn’t anyone with basic morals understand that you cannot gain in ruchnius at expense of someone else??
It is very stylish in today’s world to be a victim. Everyone wants to be the victim, instead of worrying about their own responsibility to Jewish people, which is primarily to make kidush Hashem! The “frum” people are busy complaining how they don’t get enough freestuff.October 27, 2021 5:57 pm at 5:57 pm #2021581
And excellent post MindfulOctober 27, 2021 6:01 pm at 6:01 pm #2021580
Excellent post CTRebbe. And the mods completely denied my original post.October 27, 2021 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm #2021602akupermaParticipant
The idea of zionism, from its origins in the 19th century, was to establish a place where Jews would be free from the yoke of Torah, and to accomplish this they wanted a sovereign state (note that “sovereign” means higher than any king, whether on earth or in shamayim). Zionism is by definition opposed to frumkeit. This is no secret. It is even part of their anthem (“to be a free [from the yoke of Torah] nation”)October 27, 2021 7:57 pm at 7:57 pm #2021614HealthParticipant
Akuperma -“The idea of zionism, from its origins in the 19th century, was to establish a place where Jews, etc.”
So what’s wrong with Uganda?!?October 27, 2021 9:48 pm at 9:48 pm #2021726ujmParticipant
The zionist government has been beating frum Jews mercilessly since 1948.October 27, 2021 9:52 pm at 9:52 pm #2021742GadolhadorahParticipant
Perhaps in the interests of “equal time” we should have a parallel thread on why do some frum people abuse their fellow citizens in EY (aka Peleg hafganos and other disruptive demonstration which became an almost weekly reality in Yerushalayim and make life miserable for poishete Israelis just trying to get to work, take their kids to school, etc).
Much of what is invoked in the OP has little to do with targeting frum citizens and more reflective of EY’s dysfunctional political systemOctober 27, 2021 10:56 pm at 10:56 pm #2021766
All of our chachomim had foresight when israel was formed. What the Israeli government is now doing about kashrus was recognized then. Mods, Please allow this:
See https://www. nkusa. org/Historical_Documents/TheRabbisSpeakOut.htm
approving links isn’t an option, even if you ask nicelyOctober 28, 2021 10:16 am at 10:16 am #2021879RomainParticipant
Thank you ywn for letting my post go through
Ywn is the best newspaper I know with the best websiteOctober 28, 2021 1:22 pm at 1:22 pm #2021905
Eliezer are you Satmar?October 28, 2021 1:26 pm at 1:26 pm #2021918CTRebbeParticipant
Perhaps, but we do need to advise Romain on how to get spell check on his computer and possibly a grammar check too.October 28, 2021 2:13 pm at 2:13 pm #2021946leibyParticipant
overrated, it’s not like they’re doing this all the time. you’re referring to isolated incidents. which do show a worrying trend but are not really a huge deal.October 28, 2021 2:43 pm at 2:43 pm #2021979
Not I am not. I am upset at what is going on there. Look at list of the rabonon it includes litvish also.October 28, 2021 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #2022011
There is one ethnic segment in Klal Yisroel which is always baal machlokes. It’s always them.October 28, 2021 9:18 pm at 9:18 pm #2022104Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
> All of our chachomim had foresight when israel was formed
One of the Rabbonim at Ben Gurion’s speech announcing the Medinah said sheyehianu. Another one incredibly asked – really? The first explained – I have a new tie today to come him down.October 28, 2021 9:24 pm at 9:24 pm #2022154
All the chachomim on the above referenced list.October 29, 2021 1:29 pm at 1:29 pm #2022299Yserbius123Participant
I don’t know the details of every case you mentioned, but I feel like you are doing yourself a disservice by mentioning the Sukkah dismantling here. This is the year where there were nebbach two tragedies in Eretz Yisroel involving a structure collapse in overcrowded situations on a Yom Tov that were supposedly checked by experts first. The Israeli authorities have every right to make sure this doesn’t happen again.
But yea, the Israelis kind of hate the Chareidim. That’s never been a secret.
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