October 14, 2021 8:13 am at 8:13 am #2015841
YWN ran a headline “Biden’s America” detailing record homicide rates. The problem is that the article discussed the record-breaking homicide rate between 2019 and 2020 which was when Trump was president. Which begs the question. Why does YWN frame all good news under Trump with large MAGA headlines while under Biden it seeks to link all problems to him with “Biden’s America” Does anyone seriously believe that YWN would have written “Trumps America” even though the homicide increase happened on Trump’s watch? So why the need to make outrageous headlines that falsely frame the news? Why the need for bias? Why not just report facts honestly without partisan incendiary headlines?October 14, 2021 8:49 am at 8:49 am #2015908
Biden is senile. He can’t be blamed for anything since he doesn’t know his right hand from his left hand.October 14, 2021 9:47 am at 9:47 am #2015928akupermaParticipant
It is quite rude to make fun of our nation’s leaders (especially the last few). There is no proof that any recent presidents are/were fully sentient, and in any event, the one to blame are those that elected themOctober 14, 2021 9:48 am at 9:48 am #2015929
UJM’s childish (and repetitive) rants aside, YWN clearly has an editorial perspective and is not bashful about expressing it across the site. I’ve previously kvetched about the selection of the often bizarre stock photos about the subject of a particular news story where those photos have no nexus with the substance of the story and are clearly designed to be unflattering. However, its the absolute right of media/website ownership to express their views on people or events in whatever manner they choose just as its our right to visit other sites which align more closely with our own views (although I don’t find that type of echo chamber especially helpful or entertaining).
In the end, I am reminded of what Benjamin Franklin once said: “Never argue with anyone who buys [virtual] ink by the barrel.”October 14, 2021 11:46 am at 11:46 am #2015932commonsaychelParticipant
For the same reason CNN did every headline with something negative about TrumpOctober 14, 2021 11:46 am at 11:46 am #2015935MosheFromMidwoodParticipant
crazykan: did you feel the same way when Trump was mercilessly attacked by the media? I guess you voted for Biden, so what is it that he has done that you like. The border crisis? Inflation? Afghanistan? Please, we would like to knowOctober 14, 2021 11:46 am at 11:46 am #2015937efshar azoiParticipant
The bnai Torah were always good at keeping a low profile in galus, showing respect (at least on the outside) to our elected officials, including davening for them on Shabbos. Since when did we get the nerve to write open criticism against the President of the USA?
It isn’t wise to speak poorly of their decisions, let alone their character. WE DONT HAVE THE UPPER HAND IN GALUS AMERICA AND WOE TO ANYONE WHO THINKS OTHERWISE. The goyim know what is posted on these websites.
The Noda B’Yehudah gave a glowing public hesped on Maria Theresa in Prague, even though she was a virulent anti-Semite.
President Biden and all elected officials should never be criticized by Torah observant Jews.October 14, 2021 11:46 am at 11:46 am #2015940Yabia OmerParticipant
What kind of “Yeshiva World” are you trying to represent exactly? Is it considered “frum” to attack the leader of our nation? Is it considered “unfrum” to not attack him?
YWN is perhaps the WORST news site I have ever seen. Attaching the word “Yeshiva” does not make it religious. It’s all Chitzoniyus.October 14, 2021 11:46 am at 11:46 am #2015948whitecarParticipant
Lets Go Brandon!October 14, 2021 11:46 am at 11:46 am #2015959
News media has a responsibility to present news as distinct from opinion. Additionally, there is an obvious issue of yashrus, honesty, and integrity. However, the issue is larger than that. The “Biden’s America” headline is on an article that is discussing crime statistics under Trump. The headline is blatantly false and misleading. Many readers only read the headline and it leads them to increased anger and rage for no true reason.October 14, 2021 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm #2015987
GH, well put. They are at the water fountain and drink the way
they (WYN) want and as much as they want and we can’t stop them. It shows that they are biased and thereby making the news less credible, if not for AP.October 14, 2021 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm #2015992
The Chasam Sofer said that we must respect our leaders. He proofs this from Eliyahu Hanovi who ran after Achav, a rasha, for respect. There is a teshuva about man and women singing together for the honor of the king. He said that a benevolent king who knows that this behavior is against our halacha will not ask that from us.October 14, 2021 1:11 pm at 1:11 pm #2016032
Whenever the MSM are caught with slanted and biased reporting the MAGA crowd screams and raves at them as never being trustworthy.
This was the very first public address by Trump’s White House Press Secretary , Sean Spicer, where he accused the MSM of falsifying the crowd size at the inauguration.
However, when the shoe is on the other foot …October 14, 2021 2:00 pm at 2:00 pm #2016038Yabia OmerParticipant
I feel like if we ever met the actual authors of these “Biden’s America” articles we would have a rude awakening.October 14, 2021 2:01 pm at 2:01 pm #2016044
Jackk: Even Spicer subsequently acknowledged he lied about the inaugural crowd size after saying he was included anyone in yenavelt who might have seen it on the internet. A day later, the highly respected KellyAnne Conway insisted that Trump and his spokesman were relying upon “alternative facts”.
The YWN new site pages are designed to attract and “engage” a generally frum and politically conservative readership across demographics that have some liklihood of clicking through to the paid advertising interspersed on those pages. They do not hold themselves out as independent journalists. There is always some “spin” placed on a news headline cloned from the wire services or originated independently from third-party sources. They’ve been around for 12 years, notwithstanding multiple new market entrants, so they are obviously doing something right.October 14, 2021 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #2016103
What does that have to do with fake news and an outright lie?October 14, 2021 3:20 pm at 3:20 pm #2016115
JackK: To many Americans, what the Trumkopfs refer to as the “MSM” and “Fake News have been, and for the most part, continue to be the only real media. Fox went all in for Trump, than had a falling out after they called Arizona for Biden and for a brief period in 2020 moved a bit more towards the middle of the political spectrum. Earlier this year, faced with ratings losses to OAN and NewsMAx, Murdoch seems to have pivoted back to MAGAvelt. OAN and NewsMax are totally bizarre, with the latter alternating between the “Pillow Guy” fantasies and live coverage of the Cyber Ninjas doing their imitation of an election “audit” with the soundtrack of the Village People “Macho Man” playing in the background.
YWN news stories are generally substantive and reasonably factual. My objection has always been to the rewriting of the headlines and stock photos used to grab attention. But again, its their website and they can format and editorialize however they want.October 14, 2021 4:21 pm at 4:21 pm #2016126🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
“have been, and for the most part, continue to be the only real media.”
Stop, I can’t breathe!!October 14, 2021 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm #2016123The little I knowParticipant
Spin and narrative are vastly different. The MSM creates fiction, calls it fact, and then builds their crusade on that. It is a digital version of the blood libels that plagued Yidden for centuries. That is morally intolerable.
The conservative media spins things. And, while one might take issue with that, the dishonesty level doesn’r even come close. Here’s a taste. Crime statistics inched upward toward the end of the Trump administration. It was not ignored or dismissed. The President spoke about it often, and was not effective in getting the Democrat cities and states to crack down on crime. Meanwhile, the buffoons in the Biden administration spew all this anti-police gibberish, with Kamala y”sh supporting the violent rioters, murderers, and arsonists, and the bulk of them either pushing or silently supporting the defund police agenda. Did any crfime either stop increasing under Biden or start decreasing? If yes, someone share the numbers. Pointing out this as Biden’s America is a spin, but more accurate than not.
No, I think our news outlets should report facts as facts, and confine opinions to sections labeled accurately. The site, and others, should have the fund raising posts similarly confined, not waved as news stories. All outlets can have opinions. But call them such. Sadly, the cows have already left the barn.October 14, 2021 5:23 pm at 5:23 pm #2016132LostsparkParticipant
How many of Biden’s children or grandchildren are Jews?October 14, 2021 5:24 pm at 5:24 pm #2016134
As Biden inherited this behavior is he responsible? The Chachamim said מטלטלין דיתמי לבעל חוב לא משתעבדי the orphans are not responsible for the loans left over from the father when it comes to movable objects except for a written loan or field which were already designated before inheritance.October 14, 2021 5:25 pm at 5:25 pm #2016136
Sorry, but Wolf Blitzer didn’t invent “alternative facts” (aka millions of Muslim terrorists disguised as Mexican murderers and rapists carrying Gucci luggage streaming over the border). ALL the news networks now exercise selective coverage of facts (or ignore them completely) based on what they think will hype their relatively low ratings. Fox no longer make a pretense of being “fair and balanced” and MSNBC’s notion of the latter is inviting a lefty to “balance” an even more extreme lefty. At least with YWN, I come away with a smile, sometimes a laugh and always with a new torah thought from a few really, really smart posters.October 14, 2021 5:26 pm at 5:26 pm #2016137
I nominate GH for this:October 14, 2021 5:30 pm at 5:30 pm #2016139
“have been, and for the most part, continue to be the only real media”
Syag: Selective and misleading quotes are part of what you seem to be lamenting but please read my post again. You failed to include my predicate which was to say that TO MANY AMERICANS, [the MSM] have been, and for the most part, continue to be the only real media..” Thats absolutly true, now matter how misguided or naive you think they may be. There are still tens of millions of Americans who watch/listen/read to the MSM news outlets (aka NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, WSJ, NYT etc) notwithstanding your obvious emoji skills.October 14, 2021 5:46 pm at 5:46 pm #2016156🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
“Selective and misleading quotes are part of what you seem to be lamenting”
Not at all.
And I only took the short clip so you’d know more specifically what I was laughing at. You sound miffed tho. Not sure why but sorry all the same. Didn’t think it would ruffle your feathersOctober 14, 2021 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #2016180
It is a shame of an article was published that bashed Mr. Biden for no reason!
I understand the yetzer hara of people bashing Trump and reaching for criminality trying to connect Trump Tower with Alpha bank .. but to bash Biden – there are literally hundred real reasons. If someone bashes him baselessly, there is literally no excuse. Laziness and lack of respect for truth.
PS Gemora calls us to honor any old person, even if he is not a Talmid Chacham but possibly had difficult times in his life. Biden for sure did. So, we need to respect and support him. Let’s go Biden!October 14, 2021 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #2016177
GH- True YWN can do what they want. But being able to do what you want does not mean that it is the correct or right thing to do. Many people turn to YWN for news and there should be an achryus for honesty and integrity. YWN reporting has an effect on many in our community and that trust must be taken seriously. Just because many people click on such stories and then generate ad revenue does not make it right or correct.
CS & MFM: Any media outlet that frames news with blatantly biased headlines is wrong and deserving of criticism. This is true regardless of our political persuasions. When Trump is treated unfairly it is wrong but two wrongs don’t make a right. It is wrong to falsely inflame passions and tensions.October 14, 2021 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #2016176
CK -“YWN ran a headline “Biden’s America” detailing record homicide rates”
I love how you got all the Lib Posters here to come out of the woodwork!
Technically you are Correct about Biden.
But when are Libs interested in anything that even Resembles Truth?!?
I’ll correct the Headline – “Lib Leftists have created an increase in Violence, including homicide, due to their Unending Attacks on Law & Order”!October 14, 2021 7:31 pm at 7:31 pm #2016162Amil ZolaParticipant
I’ve long given up fact checking YWNs headlines, which many times (including this one) are deceptive or just meant to put a spin on a story that reflects their editorial POV, or what their readership likes to hear.
FWIW I don’t see how ANY president can impact most crime stats (aside from not encouraging illegal acts). That’s not their job. If you live in an area where increasing crime is an issue address it locally, to your council members, LE or state reps.October 14, 2021 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm #2016201
Amil: I do not recall you ever criticizing the headline writers and so-called “journalists” during the Trump era who multiple times every day for four years repeatedly and constantly blamed Trump for things he had no control over and/or wasn’t his job.October 14, 2021 10:43 pm at 10:43 pm #2016213
Amil > I don’t see how ANY president can impact most crime stats
Feds, Justice Dept, can make things difficult for local policy by investigating them for violating civil rights of the criminals. Presidents can also set the tone. Remember Obama’s beer summit?
Also, federal social and economic policies can affect crime rates: employment rates, welfare and housing policies.October 14, 2021 11:02 pm at 11:02 pm #2016219
Reb E: Thank you for the honor but in the immortal words of R’ (General) William Tecumseh Sherman when he was being considered as a possible Republican candidate for president in 1884, he declined, saying, “I will not accept if nominated and will not serve if selected.”October 16, 2021 10:49 pm at 10:49 pm #2016673
GH, I picked you because I like your writing style.October 17, 2021 4:40 pm at 4:40 pm #2016930RememberThatParticipant
I think the criticism is more about his administration., not on Biden as a person per se.October 17, 2021 6:28 pm at 6:28 pm #2017015
Reb E: I would trade “style” for 1/10 of your substance. You consistently amaze with the scope and depth of your torah knowledgeOctober 17, 2021 11:29 pm at 11:29 pm #2017225
Still searching for an adequate explanation for the original question posed above. It is sad when the best response is “the media” is unfair to Trump so somehow that makes it OK to blatantly mislead and enflame tensions regarding Biden. If YWN won’t take achrayus to present news in an unbiased fashion perhaps we can at least all do our part by dialing down the incendiary rhetoric when discussing politics at the shul kiddush or at home. Let’s debate the issues and get rid of the baseless name-calling, labeling, hyperbole, stereotyping, and fearmongering.October 17, 2021 11:30 pm at 11:30 pm #2017226
I am still searching for an adequate explanation for the original question posed above. It is sad when the best response is “the media” is unfair to Trump so somehow that makes it OK to blatantly mislead and enflame tensions regarding Biden. If YWN won’t take achrayus to present news in an unbiased fashion perhaps we can at least all do our part by dialing down the incendiary rhetoric when discussing politics at the shul kiddush or at home. Let’s debate the issues and get rid of the baseless name-calling, labeling, hyperbole, stereotyping, and fearmongering.October 18, 2021 12:10 am at 12:10 am #2017246
There are so many basis for warranted and justified attacks on Biden, that it is completely unnecessary to utilize any baseless attack.October 21, 2021 2:10 pm at 2:10 pm #2019384
CENSORSHIP ON LIVE TV: Fight Breaks Out As Rep. Nadler As He Refuses To Allow Rep. Jordan To Show Video.
Requiring a member of congress to follow the parliamentary procedures set forth by his republican predecessor is now called CENSORSHIP.
Jordan tried to break the rules and he was called out for it.
Jordan is so deeply connected to the January 6th mob attack that he feels that no rules apply to him.October 21, 2021 2:40 pm at 2:40 pm #2019391
As I just noted in the news page, the Republicans used the same type of arcane political gamesmanship to control the agenda and messaging when they had the majority. Its business as usual in D.C. and nothing has changed. As of today, one Republican Senator is blocking even debate on the confirmation of 17 nominees for high level Administration appointments in the State Department and related national security positions because he has “policy” objections to a European pipeline matter. In another House Committee, Republicans simply walk out to block a quorum w/o providing a coherent policy rationale.October 21, 2021 3:12 pm at 3:12 pm #2019400
GH -“Republicans simply walk out to block a quorum w/o providing a coherent policy rationale.”
That they learned from the Texas DemonCrats to stop the Quorum!October 21, 2021 3:13 pm at 3:13 pm #2019399
And another one:
BIDEN’S AMERICA: Gas Hits $7.59 A Gallon In California TownOctober 21, 2021 3:55 pm at 3:55 pm #2019434
I think your comment on the news page was censored.
Don’t see it.October 21, 2021 4:39 pm at 4:39 pm #2019440
One Biden’s measure benefited the Jewish community – he increased child credit to 3-3.6K per child and made it fully refundable, that is you don’t need to earn money to get “credit”. So, sort of UBI for children. Bli ayn hara, this could easily add up to 20+K for a family. I presume, schools that require tax documents or are just aware of this, get a part via decreasing discounts.October 27, 2021 1:14 pm at 1:14 pm #2021414RomainParticipant
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It doesn’t make a difference.
They Stole the last election, so why wouldn’t they do it again?
This Administration is worse than any Commy Country.
Since when is Parental Rights in the Education of their Kids – Domestic Terrorism that the FBI should get involved?!?
I knew that the DemonCrats would turn this Country into a Dictatorship, but I didn’t realize that they would do it So Soon!!!October 28, 2021 12:29 am at 12:29 am #2021787bored_teen 💕Participant
1. Gas prices are soaring!
2. Shortage/ no supplies in stores!
4.Inflation is booming!
5.Thousands of women given over to the Taliban!
6.13 servicemen killed!
7.Thanksgiving is predicted to be extremely expensive!
These aren’t things that just happen to occur while he was president, these are things that happened as a result of his actions!October 28, 2021 12:29 am at 12:29 am #2021786bored_teen 💕Participant
I love how you all suddenly care about the respect of the president after all the names you called trump! Also, in my opinion there’s no such thing as unbiased media anymore, everyone has their opinion and can’t keep it to themselves. To pretend that the MSM doesn’t skew stories or just refuse to report others is ridiculous. If you’re honest and want both sides of the story, read Fox AND CNN headlines! ( that’s what I do)
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