February 27, 2022 1:00 pm at 1:00 pm #2064503
Paul Gosar and MTG spoke at a pro Russia white nationalist event led by well known anti semite Nick Fuentes. This is not the first time they have attended such an event. Yet news of this can hardly be found on YWN. One can only imagine the large OUTRAGE headline if it was AOC or Ilhan Omar. Why is YWN silent when the GOP’s hard core Trump supporters are guilty of the same? Is antisemitism merely a tool to use against political enemies?February 27, 2022 1:31 pm at 1:31 pm #2064552lakewhutParticipant
They aren’t nearly as popular and powerful as the Dem antisemites who want to destroy IsraelFebruary 27, 2022 1:31 pm at 1:31 pm #2064553ujmParticipant
For every GOP antisemite there are at least ten Democrat antisemites. The Congressional Black Caucus is majority antisemites. And that’s not even counting real antisemites like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc who the Democrat Party officially honors, fetes and caters to. The Democrat Party is institutionally antisemitic. And their antisemites are overall bigger antisemites. And more dangerous, since unlike the Republicans, the Democrats empower their antisemites.February 27, 2022 1:52 pm at 1:52 pm #2064561
‘I hope that my posts will help offset the biased one sided “reporting” though realistically I know that they likely will not I pray that it helps break the idol worship of this false deity.’
How many converts to this crusade do you estimate you’ve won with your daily dose of similar-sounding threads? Just curious.February 27, 2022 2:19 pm at 2:19 pm #2064564
Well your reading my posts instead of Townhall and Breitbart so it’s a good start
In any case would you care to address the question raised in the thread or is pro Trump bias just to be accepted?February 27, 2022 2:40 pm at 2:40 pm #2064567
I’m not a convert nor am I on the way to becoming one; I already have a religion. I don’t access either of those sites and perhaps that’s also why I don’t see agents of the former President lurking around every corner. You may want to lay off of those two yourself.February 27, 2022 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm #2064569eddieeParticipant
Why are you equating GOP with pro Trump? The OP was “Why Does YWN Ignore GOP Antisemites”. The question does not reference Trump at all. Not all GOP supporter are pro Trump. Being pro Trump is not part of the GOP platform.February 27, 2022 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #2064581smerelParticipant
>>>Paul Gosar and MTG spoke at a pro Russia white nationalist event led by well known anti semite Nick Fuentes.
The event they attended wasn’t inherently anti-Semitic and neither of them said anything remotely anti-Semitic at the event. I have no idea what MTG and PG privately think but one thing is certain: The Jewish community making a major about an event they attended and calling them anti-Semites is guaranteed to send them in that direction.
>>>One can only imagine the large OUTRAGE headline if it was AOC or Ilhan Omar.
I don’t remember any large OUTRAGE headline over AOC or Ilhan Omar attending events organized by anti-Semites. And they do so all the time!
>>>Is antisemitism merely a tool to use against political enemies?
Quite ironic that you would ask that question because that is exactly what you are doing with this postFebruary 27, 2022 4:16 pm at 4:16 pm #2064571Reb EliezerParticipant
GOP has no platform, so now it is synonymous with Trump.February 27, 2022 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm #2064590
Most traditional Dems know they have a growing number of crazies on their left (including some unquestionable anti-Semites claiming to be anti-Israel). Some of our regular right-wing zealots invoke their regular mantras that all Dems are communists, apikorsim, anti-semitim etc. but kvel when their Trump acolytes engage in some truly outrageous behavior, post blatantly racist and anti-Semitic memes , etc. and attend white racist/supremacist gatherings while claiming they had “no idea” of their sponsorship. The GOP as we know it has been transformed into the party of Trump whoever adulates Donald is OK no matter what else they may have said or done.February 27, 2022 8:37 pm at 8:37 pm #2064596charliehallParticipant
“The event they attended wasn’t inherently anti-Semitic”
The organization itself is inherently anti-Semitic!
” and neither of them said anything remotely anti-Semitic at the event.”
Simply being there was an endorsement!!!
“is guaranteed to send them in that direction”
They are already there.
“I don’t remember any large OUTRAGE headline over AOC or Ilhan Omar”
I have taken both on on their own social media sites. Ditto Tlaib and Sarsour. No need to do that here; all the anti-Semites who comment on this site are on the political right. And YWN management allows them to continue to post their hate.February 27, 2022 9:17 pm at 9:17 pm #2064628
“Paul Gosar and MTG spoke at a pro Russia white nationalist event led by well known anti semite Nick Fuentes. This is not the first time they have attended such an event. ”
Both claimed they “did not know” that Fuentes is a rabid white supremacist and anti-Semite. Sound familiar??
Does anyone remember Trump’s absurd claim just before Super Tuesday back in 2016 primaries that he “knows nothing” about former KKK leader David Duke, America’s most well known white supremacist and initially refused to disavow Duke’s endorsement of his candidacy.
When confronted by reporters about Duke, Trump claimed ignorance multiple times:
“Well, just so you understand, I don’t know anything about David Duke. okay? I don’t know anything about what you’re even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. So, I don’t know anything”
“I don’t know, did he endorse me or what’s going on, because, you know, I know nothing about David Duke. I know nothing about white supremacists. And so you’re asking me a question that I’m supposed to be talking about people that I know nothing about. …
“I don’t know any — honestly, I don’t know David Duke. I don’t believe I have ever met him. I’m pretty sure I didn’t meet him. And I just don’t know anything about him.”
Then, after denying he had refused to disavow Duke’s endorsement (in an interview readily available on tape) , his campaign ultimately did issue a rejection of Duke and white supremacists…..only to be followed months later by his even more memorable assertion that “there are good people on BOTH sides” after the Nazi march in Charlottesville.
Do Gosar and MTG believe that Fuentes one of those “Good Nazis”??February 27, 2022 10:50 pm at 10:50 pm #2064650
The definition of a “Good Nazi” is a Jew that accuses other Jews of turning their backs on the Torah over politics and brands them apikorsim over COVID issues, when he himself follows a true apikores like Rabbit Avi Weiss.February 27, 2022 11:31 pm at 11:31 pm #2064660ujmParticipant
Donald Trump has been the most Jews friendly president since Washington.February 27, 2022 11:31 pm at 11:31 pm #2064661
Hooray for YWN. At 10:00pm tonight the MTG / Gosar story was posted.
Gadolhadofi: it’s working! It’s working! Just hang in there a little longer and you will come around as well.February 27, 2022 11:32 pm at 11:32 pm #2064662amomParticipant
I will respectfully disagree.
Among the many things part of the Republican platform:
– Anti- abortion
– Less regulation on businesses
– stronger border
– against bail reform/ for stronger policing
– for a stronger military
You may disagree with any one of these or all of these (which I can’t believe because you are for sure anti abortion but whatever).
Trump was never my first choice. I despise his morals, his personality and I honestly think he’s a sick narcissist. But as a Republican conservative I will agree that he enacted a lot of great policies.
Not every Republican is good. There are anti semites on both sides and YWN should call them all out.
I honestly think there are many more anti semites on the left which is why they receive more coverage.
Also, when looking who’s anti semitic one has to look at their action and policies together with their words as a package.
Yes, the squad gets called out more often because look at their words, their actions and the policies they support.
Trump may have said some anti-semitic remarks but look at his actions (he was good for Israel, freed Rebashkin and some other frum Jews etc.) and policies.February 28, 2022 12:57 am at 12:57 am #2064677
Not in this lifetime; you’re as sane as your “handle” and I’ve never come across a bigger anti-Semite than your friend Sorry Charlie.February 28, 2022 8:36 am at 8:36 am #2064742akupermaParticipant
To the original “question” – probably because they are incredible nobodies. Unlike the Democratic anti-semites, who dominate a major wing of the Democratic party, Republican anti-semites are marginalized.February 28, 2022 9:54 am at 9:54 am #2064749
Bill Barr states the obvious in his new book:
“Trump cared only about one thing: himself. Country & principle took 2nd place.”
MGT and Gosar are not nobodys in Trump’s GOP.. They are Trump’s loudest and biggest supporters. That is why Trump will never condemn them.February 28, 2022 11:16 am at 11:16 am #2064777
“Trump may have said some anti-semitic remarks but look at his actions (he was good for Israel, freed Rebashkin and some other frum Jews etc.
I can’t believe anyone thinks Trump’s last minute pardons to some well-connected Jewish felons who spent big dollars on lawyers and lobbyists is a reason to ignore his blatant racism and implicit support for white nationalists and extreme right wing evangelicals whose anti-semitic theology is a bad as it gets. His recent dark turn towards demonizing Netanyahu shows how quickly he will turn on his “friends” when they defy his lust for adulation. He will throw his own “Jewish” children under the bus (and back it up a few times) if it will serve his maniacal craze to regain power.February 28, 2022 11:17 am at 11:17 am #2064775
If the Republicans regain the House in 2022, as I expect they will, don’t be surprised if some of these right wing crazies (MGT, Gosar, Cawthorn, Boebert etc.) gain additional traction and credibility. Once McCarthy realized they had tacit support from Trump, he quickly tempered his criticism and now just holds his nose and remains silent so as not to antagonize the boss.February 28, 2022 2:06 pm at 2:06 pm #2064808nishtdayngesheftParticipant
I am not sure why we are complaining about GOP associated anti-semites not being discussed as a news item on YWN, when clearly there are liberal ones regularly posting in these forums.March 1, 2022 1:41 am at 1:41 am #2065059
McConnell has publicly condemned Gosar and MTG. As has Rona McDaniel. Rick Scott and Mitt Romney have done so as well. Even Kevin McCarty has expressed outrage. But Trump is silent..The “tough guy” who is unafraid to talk is quiet. The so called “friend of the Jews” has no comment. Trump is fine with antisemites as long as they support him.March 2, 2022 1:03 pm at 1:03 pm #2065612midwesternerParticipant
MTG is the most marginalized member of Congress. Paul Gosar is nobody. No reason to condemn and thereby give publicity to the ones who are being ignored anyway. AOC and the squad are front and center in the Democratic Party.March 2, 2022 6:40 pm at 6:40 pm #2065713
“Paul Gosar is Nobody”
Without doubt….he just voted against a House resolution supporting the Ukrainian people..Rosendale and Massie were the other two isolationist idiots who said we “shouldn’t be taking sides”.March 3, 2022 2:26 am at 2:26 am #2065771crazy horseParticipant
A lot of republicans are anti semitic in believing rothchild and soros runs the world, AKA globalist.
there are 2 factions in republican party ! is the standard conservative less taxes less spending, strong military ect. then there are the far right wing that believes america first means america isolated.
That the goverment should shut down big corparations like nike amazon facebook ect since it doesn’t fit our agenda. This is not conservatism, just far right radicals that have become mainstream in last 10 years.March 3, 2022 9:31 am at 9:31 am #2065875
In fairness, the Dems have mindlessly stoked the “globalist” fears of a large segment of the traditional Republican base through their seemingly endless efforts to insert U.S. dollars and programs into every problem afflicting every corner of the world while simultaneously ignoring some pressing needs at home. With most Americans having little, if any understanding of the geopolitical issues at stake, the basic stuff at home (Covid, empty shelves, inflation, immigration etc.) will dominate their short-term political focus and allow the isolationists to expand their influence.March 3, 2022 9:45 am at 9:45 am #2065882Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
crazy, American political system revolves around 2 parties, so, inevitably, crazies (pardon me) will belong in both parties and they vote. The trick is to keep crazies under 25% on each side, then majority of Ds and Rs will elect moderates within their parties. Maybe someone can count how many Reps in each party belong to the crazy wing. I agree that we here see more of crazy Ds as most of us probably live in blue states. I presume Jewish community in Alabama has a different perspective.
An alternative is to have a multi-party system, like in Italy or Israel, where crazies form their own parties and have representation in parliament. They can then have much larger platform and get influence on their specific interests. It is “more democratic” but historically does not seem more stable. (See: Weimar Republic)March 3, 2022 9:53 am at 9:53 am #2065895Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
Ok, so 3 R-s voted against House resolution. So that is the size of R- Russian caucus? There was before a vote to give visas to Afghani interpreters. 16 R-s voted against. This is the size of isolationist caucus.
Even voting against their own President’s withdrawal from Syria – 60 R-s against.March 3, 2022 2:25 pm at 2:25 pm #2066011crazy horseParticipant
good point by gedolhadorah.
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