Why doesn’t coffee have it’s own ?????

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  • #1834429
    Reb Eliezer
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    coffee addict, sorry, once it was decided not to have its own brocho, we cannot change that. We can have in mind that the above brocho should also apply to coffee since it does not say how in the brocho.

    #1834563
    catch yourself
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    Rav Shlomo Zalman ZT”L leaves as ?”? the question of why nowadays we do not say ???? ??? ??? on orange juice. I have seen some Poskim extend this question to coffee. Nevertheless, of course, the accepted ??? is to say ????.
    IIRC, according to some ??????? (specifically, I think, the ???”?), all fruit juices are ????? ???? ?????, but only ???? ???? ????? can themselves become ??? (although I might have this distinction exactly backwards).
    Without question, Reb Eliezer is right that we should have coffee in mind while saying ?????? ????, since this is one of the ways of “removing sleep from our eyes” which ???”? ???? ???? implanted in the ?????.

    #1834694
    ??coffee addict
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    What if you’re too tired in the morning to have ????? for it?

    #1834726
    catch yourself
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    A very choshuve Rav in New York told me once, before Shacharis, with his coffee in his hand, “It’s the first thing in the Siddur.”
    ????”?

    #1834729
    Reb Eliezer
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    coffee addict, if someone is too tired in the morning, oy vaiy.

    #1834736
    Reb Eliezer
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    The way I learned it in the yeshiva that ?? ??? ?? is machshir.

    ???”? ????? ????? ?????? ??? ? ???? ?
    ??? ?? ????? ????? ???????? ?? ??????? ??????: ???? ???? ????? ????? ????? ???? ?????, ????? ??????? ?? ????? ?? ??????? ????? ??????, ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ?? ?? ?? ???? ???? ??? ???? ??? ?? ???? ?????.

    #1834740
    Reb Eliezer
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    There is a very interesting Klei Yokor on Para Adumah in Parashas Chukas ???? ?? ????. We will use Newton’s Law known a hundred years before by the Klei Yokor. Opposiites React. The question is how can one item be both tahor and tamei? What about being two parts, water and ashes. The water is tahor whereas the ashes are tamei. The question might be for King Solomon that how is it that the ashes don’t make the water tamei? Now, if you put this on a tahor person then the water being tahor has no reaction, so the ashes make him tamei. However when you put it on a tamei person then the ashes being tamei will have no affect and he will become tahor. With this he explains the idea of hechsher. Fruits and vegetables are neutral so we need something tahor to touch them that later the tamei should have an affect on it and make it tamei.

    #1834742
    ??coffee addict
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    Catch yourself,

    He makes a ???? ??? in his cup of coffee? ?

    I think I found my ???? & ?? ?????!

    I wonder if his Yeshiva is called ?? ????

    Reason being is because ?? was ??? ????? ?? ??????

    And we say ?? ???? ??? ??? ???

    ????

    #1834754
    Reb Eliezer
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    coffee addict, why did they need coffee to keep them awake when they over slept, so were rested?

    #1834790
    ??coffee addict
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    Reb eliezer,

    THEY STAYED UP FOR THREE DAYS STRAIGHT!

    HOW COULD THEY DO THAT WITHOUT COFFEE

    I can’t even stay up one day straight without coffee

    #1834801
    catch yourself
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    “IIRC, according to some ??????? (specifically, I think, the ???”?), all fruit juices are ????? ???? ?????, but only ???? ???? ????? can themselves become ??? (although I might have this distinction exactly backwards).”

    Turns out I had it backwards and inside out. Everyone agrees that only ???? ???? ????? are ????? ???? ????? (which is a ???? ??????). The ???”? holds that they are also the only ones which can themselves become ???, and the ???”? disagrees and holds that ?? ????? ??????? ?? ???? ???? ??????? ????? (but ?? ????? ??????? ????? are ???? ????? ????? ?????? ?????).

    I guess that Rav says ???? ??? by heart.

    #1939045
    ??coffee addict
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    I heard a pshat by Reb Joey Newcomb that we make a ???? on coffee because we put the water (hot) with milk (cold) and coffee (bitter) with sugar (sweet) all different extremes and put it together

    #1939057
    Meno
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    Ever had one of those dreams where you’re trying to tell people a joke but they keep responding as if you’re saying something serious?

    That’s this thread.

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