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Is there anyone here who can explain MK Litzmans actions regarding the Hadassah hospital controversy? Regardless of whether the doctors are right why doesn’t he give freedom to any hospital such as sha’are zeddek to do as they please and open a children’s ward as doctors recommend? Did he consult with gedolim before making a decision which may be a question of safek pikuach nefesh? Is Litzman a socialist? Is the Torah socialist?
Litzman thinks that he is our nanny. He also wants to ban anything with trans fats (although that will definitely get him into trouble as it would include kugel). However, for some reason he defends the cigarette companies. He even opposed requiring warning labels on packages as “unaesthetic”.
I know nothing about this dispute, but the Torah and Halacha does not oppose monopolies. Indeed, Halacha often supports an existing merchant and prevents competition (depending on the circumstances.)
Avi K,
Sorry to bust your bubble, but typical potato Kugel does not have trans fat.
As ” Health minister” his job is to look our for your health. Why are you okay with him being a nanny in regards to cigarettes, but you’re against him being a nanny in regards to trans fat?!? Either he’s a nanny, or he isn’t. You can’t pick and choose. Unless you’re against him because you don’t like him, not for any rational reason.rational jew
Part of taking government money is following their rules.
Israel’s medical insurance is government run. If you don’t like single payer system, vote for change. Don’t blame Rabbi Litzman for doing his job.I think that Litzman will gladly let Shaarei Zzedek open a new ward but he won’t give them funding from the state. It might not be worth it for Shaarei Tzedek to open a new ward without government backing.
RJ, I don’t need a source. If you want to claim there’s an issue in the Torah against monopolies,*you* need to bring a source. (There isn’t any.)
Furthermore, the well known Halacha of Hasagas Ge’vul frequently prohibits creating direct immediate competition with an established merchant.
Yitz,
1. Google “JERUSALEM KUGEL” and look at the nutritional info.
2. Cigarettes are much more dangerous and affect others. Moreover his reason is foolish. Who cares about the aesthetics of cigarette packs?Joseph, see Hasagat Gevul: Economic Competition in Jewish Law by Rabbi Chaim Jachter.
As someone who has been following this very closely, it would seem that his close ties (financial?) with Dr. Rotstein (Head of Haddassa) does not allow him to betray Haddassa. They think that opening a “competing” ward will hurt Haddassa’s bottom line. (This can be debated, since Haddassa was understaffed and over-crowded before the crisis). Secondly, he has made pretty clear on the media that he wants to “teach” the doctors a lesson not to “revolt” against the establishment. Apparently even if that is for ethical issues. In any case, none of the parties (Litzman, Rotstein or the doctors) seem to realize how they are essentially playing games on the backs of sick children and their parents. I don’t know why Litzman couldn’t find some other arena to flex his muscles in.
typical kugels are not made with margarine.
regular oil does not contain trans-fatas for ‘aesthetic’ some come with gory pictures warning of the health hazards of smoking…
As someone living in Eretz Yisroel, both sides are using the children as hostages for their cause.
This is a labor dispute like all Labor disputes that needs someone to help BOTH sides work it out.
The fact that the doctors are using the children to push their side in the media is discussing!
MK Litzman is an honest and ehrlich person, and I’m sure he sees all the sides in this conflict and is doing what he thinks is best for the public.Chilliworker,
1. Making it with margarine and vegetable oil keeps it parve. In any case, trans fats in moderation are not harmful and unlike cigarettes are not addictive.
2. Litzman is against any type of warning.
3. Ma’alot-Tarshiha Mayor Shlomo Buhbut called him “the worst health minister ever” and claimed he was responsible for “the collapse of medical system in the periphery.” (Jerusalem Post).1. Duh, which is why it does not contain Trans fat.
2. Incorrect R. Litzman is against disgusting gory pictures, he’s FOR written warnings
3. I have no idea what you’re talking about. R. Litzman was voted the most well liked Israeli pol last year. One bad story doesn’t make him a pariah.Yitz,
1. Duh. Margarine and vegetable oils have trans fats. Some have more, some have less.
2. Experts have said that these pictures help greatly. Litzman said that they will “disfigure” the state. I guess smoke does not.
3. Actually he was rated the most liked cabinet member. If Shelly Yachimovich would praise my performance (if I would be an MK), as she praised Litzman’s, I would demand a retraction and lifting of parliamentary immunity so that I could sue for defamation.
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