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    TheGoq
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    It’s far more bitter than romaine.

    #1150326

    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    i agree. i always thought it was funny that people would use romaine as marror at night and then serve it in a salad the next day for lunch.

    #1150327

    screwdriverdelight
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    I always thought it was strange that people put romaine lettuce in salad.

    #1150328

    TheGoq
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    I think romaine is rather tame its good for salads cause its crunchy.

    #1150329

    ☕️coffee addict
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    My wife bought “the rav Moshe Haggadah” and in it rav Moshe says romaine is better than horseradish because it’s just like the shibud it was sweet in the beginning and then it became bitter

    #1150330

    screwdriverdelight
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    But it’s too bitter for salad.

    #1150331

    screwdriverdelight
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    ca, the g’mara is p’sachim 39a says that about chazeres.

    #1150332

    👑RebYidd23
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    Romaine lettuce leaves used for lettuce are usually not from a mature plant. The leaves become bitter as the plant matures.

    #1150333

    ☕️coffee addict
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    Sdd,

    And therefore what?

    I’m quoting you b’sheim Rav Moshe

    #1150334

    screwdriverdelight
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    CA, why would you quote it b’sheim R’ Moshe is it’s b’feirush a g’mara?

    #1150335

    dovrosenbaum
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    Romaine is the best form of maror to use. Radicchio isn’t mentioned as suitable, and no poskim ever used it. Some, including Rav Aharon Kotler, would use iceberg lettuce. I’ve seen iceberg used in communal sedarim because it’s cheaper than romaine, and poses less of a tolaim concern, although there are still bugs in iceberg.

    #1150336

    ☕️coffee addict
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    Sdd,

    1) I never learned that Gemara

    2) chazeres might have different rules than maror

    #1150337

    yehudayona
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    AFAIK, horseradish isn’t bitter at any stage of growth. It’s sharp. If you grow romaine and let it bolt (produce flowers), it’s allegedly bitter.

    #1150338

    feivel
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    I don’t find horseradish bitter, or sharp either. It’s some other quality, shared with ammonia.

    I call it “nasally caustic”

    #1150339

    feivel
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    since the nasal passages, to which horseradish fumes rise, are connected to the eyes lacrimal canals, a good chrain does tend to produce tears. Maybe that’s an additional maaleh of horseradish.

    Could be.

    #1150340

    feivel
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    Seriously

    #1150341

    oomis
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    Romaine was always considered “bitter” because of the hardship in cleaning it from bugs. With Bodek romaine that no longer is the case. However, I learned in a shiur that romaine is the major of choice, because the Gemarah says what is chazeres? Chassa (lettuce). Within the name of chassa, spelled Ches Samech Hei, is found the expression of Chas Hashem. Hashem is chas (Meracheim) on us, especially in our most bitter times.

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