May 2, 2016 9:59 am at 9:59 am #617650TheGoqParticipant
It’s far more bitter than romaine.May 2, 2016 2:24 pm at 2:24 pm #1150326🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
i agree. i always thought it was funny that people would use romaine as marror at night and then serve it in a salad the next day for lunch.May 2, 2016 3:05 pm at 3:05 pm #1150327
I always thought it was strange that people put romaine lettuce in salad.May 2, 2016 9:16 pm at 9:16 pm #1150328TheGoqParticipant
I think romaine is rather tame its good for salads cause its crunchy.May 2, 2016 9:45 pm at 9:45 pm #1150329
My wife bought “the rav Moshe Haggadah” and in it rav Moshe says romaine is better than horseradish because it’s just like the shibud it was sweet in the beginning and then it became bitterMay 2, 2016 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm #1150330
But it’s too bitter for salad.May 2, 2016 10:40 pm at 10:40 pm #1150331
ca, the g’mara is p’sachim 39a says that about chazeres.May 2, 2016 11:58 pm at 11:58 pm #1150332👑RebYidd23Participant
Romaine lettuce leaves used for lettuce are usually not from a mature plant. The leaves become bitter as the plant matures.May 3, 2016 12:22 am at 12:22 am #1150333
And therefore what?
I’m quoting you b’sheim Rav MosheMay 3, 2016 12:54 am at 12:54 am #1150334
CA, why would you quote it b’sheim R’ Moshe is it’s b’feirush a g’mara?May 3, 2016 1:17 pm at 1:17 pm #1150335dovrosenbaumParticipant
Romaine is the best form of maror to use. Radicchio isn’t mentioned as suitable, and no poskim ever used it. Some, including Rav Aharon Kotler, would use iceberg lettuce. I’ve seen iceberg used in communal sedarim because it’s cheaper than romaine, and poses less of a tolaim concern, although there are still bugs in iceberg.May 3, 2016 1:58 pm at 1:58 pm #1150336
1) I never learned that Gemara
2) chazeres might have different rules than marorMay 3, 2016 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm #1150337yehudayonaParticipant
AFAIK, horseradish isn’t bitter at any stage of growth. It’s sharp. If you grow romaine and let it bolt (produce flowers), it’s allegedly bitter.May 3, 2016 11:57 pm at 11:57 pm #1150338
I don’t find horseradish bitter, or sharp either. It’s some other quality, shared with ammonia.
I call it “nasally caustic”May 4, 2016 1:08 am at 1:08 am #1150339
since the nasal passages, to which horseradish fumes rise, are connected to the eyes lacrimal canals, a good chrain does tend to produce tears. Maybe that’s an additional maaleh of horseradish.
Could be.May 4, 2016 1:10 am at 1:10 am #1150340
SeriouslyMay 4, 2016 3:07 am at 3:07 am #1150341oomisParticipant
Romaine was always considered “bitter” because of the hardship in cleaning it from bugs. With Bodek romaine that no longer is the case. However, I learned in a shiur that romaine is the major of choice, because the Gemarah says what is chazeres? Chassa (lettuce). Within the name of chassa, spelled Ches Samech Hei, is found the expression of Chas Hashem. Hashem is chas (Meracheim) on us, especially in our most bitter times.
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