May 12, 2021 6:49 pm at 6:49 pm #1973900The Real TruthParticipant
why should i take the the vacccine if i had the virus already ?May 12, 2021 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #1973929akupermaParticipant
Because the all wise wizards running the CDC have yet to figure out to what extent having been exposed to the virus gives one long term immunity. They aren’t even sure how long the vaccine will last. If you have trustworthy primary care physician, ask? The other side is they clearly understated the side effects (many people I known who took the vaccine were too sick to go to work the next day). All they determined in the testing for “emergency use”, was that it is very unlikely to kill you, and is likely to reduce your chance of getting the disease relative to a placebo.May 12, 2021 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #1973931Grey matterParticipant
Numerous undiscussed studies say reinfection is very rare. You are indisputably at a much lower risk than a J&J recipient. If you get reinfected it is basically guaranteed it will be light. You can take the shot to avoid that small possibility. Also there is societal pressure and soon you may need a vaccine passport to do regular activities. I had Covid I took the vaccine for the latter reasons. It’s not a big decision. Do what you want.May 12, 2021 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #1973932
vaccine might give you better immunity. Might also decrease with time. Some recommended one instead of two doses. Measure your antibody level and ask your doctor.May 12, 2021 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #1973939
I heard from doctors, there are variants of which you are not protected and we don’t know how long the antibodies gained last.May 12, 2021 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #1973940
To protect yourself from C”V Getting the virus again, and that’s what I think you forgot. THERE ARE ALOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD CORONAVIRUS AND THEN AFTER THEY BORUCH HASHEM RECOVERED they got the virus AGAIN.
of course with truth and honesty we all know that everyone’s health is directly in the hands of Hashem and the real secret to a complete speedy recovery from any sickness is to daven for a complete speedy recovery and have faith in Hashem. Yes we still all need to do our Hishtadlus an take medicine if someone is C”V sick but in truth we know that the only thing/one that can heal a person from sickness is Hashem directly
May we all stay safe from all kinds of sicknesses and turn directly to Hashem when a person needs a speedy recovery from sickness. Versus turning to fake messengers of Hashem of pill, vitamins and doctors etc….May 12, 2021 9:50 pm at 9:50 pm #1973994
If you get it in Ohio, you get a chance at a million dollars.
And you can tell your friends how tough you are.😉May 12, 2021 9:50 pm at 9:50 pm #1973990
Sam Klein, look at the Ramban in Parashas Bechukosai on voolech eschem komimyus who says, even though Hashem commanded a doctor to cure us, we should avoid going to him. This needs an explanation. Normally we have to go to a doctor but there will be a time when we will be on high level trusting Hashem and being tested through yesurim shel ahava. In that case, we should take it in stride and rely on Hashem, who gave it will also take it away. In the Haggada we don’t find directly Moshe Rabbenu mentiioned as we don’t praise a doctor’s tool, so Moshe Rabbenu was Hashem’s tool, so is a dodtor. We have to daven to Hashem to provide the strength and abilities to the doctor to heal us.May 12, 2021 11:12 pm at 11:12 pm #1974006
Sure we can go and still should go to the doctor and take medicine for the person who is C”V sick but only on condition that he completely knows with complete faith that these are all just messengers and in truth ONLY HASHEM CAN HEAL HIM FROM HIS SICKNESS. and when he does recover from his sickness he remembers that it was really Hashem who healed him. No matter how many months of operations and doctors he went through and years of medicine prescriptions. Hashem is the master healer of sickness all over the world and can heal everyone immediately from this terrible coronavirus mageifa that millions have already died if we are just all ready to OPENLY CONFESS TO HASHEM AND COME TOGETHER AS A NATION FOR SERIOUS TESHUVA AND ACHDUS ASAPMay 13, 2021 12:04 am at 12:04 am #1974016jews4bidenParticipant
for the government to track uMay 13, 2021 12:46 am at 12:46 am #1974019☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
why should i take the the vacccine if i had the virus already ?
They think the vaccine gives better and longer lasting immunity than immunity obtained by getting the virus. It’s also more recent.
Does that mean it’s worth it? I don’t know. I think getting vaccinated is pretty much a no-brainer for someone who never has the virus, but I understand the hesitancy of someone who once had it. I’m also not anxious for 12 year olds to get the Covid vaccine.May 13, 2021 1:13 am at 1:13 am #1974026interjectionParticipant
My doctor said that if I hadn’t already gotten covid then he would strongly recommend I take the vaccine. I took an antibody test and my numbers are high. I’m expecting so the doctor told me that the risks of taking the vaccine outweigh the potential benefits.May 13, 2021 7:12 am at 7:12 am #1974021LostsparkParticipant
I got mine so I wouldn’t get kicked out of my shul.
I’m not dead yet, so I guess it’s not that dig of a deal.May 13, 2021 7:13 am at 7:13 am #1974024
> 12 year olds
a good question. May depend on the probability of getting COVID, as probably controlled vaccine is always better than uncontrolled virus – Or, if you wish, made in USA v. made in China …
So, if a kid will be at school and camp, and interact a lot, then the chance of COVID over time is pretty high, and I don’t see why not have it. If there will be less interaction during summer, maybe wait a month or two for possible problems to be worked out. I am not sure also why there are no (reported) trials on smaller doses for younger ages. Maybe gov guys do not want “confusion” in people’s minds – just give everyone the same.May 13, 2021 11:09 am at 11:09 am #1974146
It does not matter one bit what the doctor thinks. Let the patient who is sick think about their predicament. And let the doctor focus on healing.May 13, 2021 1:17 pm at 1:17 pm #1974190
Dear Reb Eliezer,
That is not correct. The Ramban is saying something else. That a real tzaddik does not get ‘sick’. So if s/he is not sick, why is the doctor there? Meaning, That if a doctor is recommended, than the patient is not a complete tzaddik.May 13, 2021 2:59 pm at 2:59 pm #1974234Avi KParticipant
Sam, who says that a person must have that intent in order to be cured? It certainly is not necessary that the doctor thinks that as we even listen to idolatrous doctors (SA OC, 618:1). The Taz says (YD 336:1) that no one is on that level. The Netziv says (Heemek Devar Bamidbar 6:11 and 17:3) says that a person who acts in a manner inappropriate to his level is called a sinner. In fact, several Amoraim went to bloodletters. See also Rambam in his commentary on Pesachim Ch. 4 d”h shisha devarim asa Hizkiyahu.
As for the O.P.’s question, the shot is needed as a booster. It increases the chances of not getting it again. It is also not certain how long the recovered person’s immunity lasts.May 13, 2021 3:58 pm at 3:58 pm #1974269
Good News! The CDC just relaxed the requirement of mask wearing and distancing, outdoors and indors for fully vaccinated people after 2 weeks as the risk of getting and giving the COVID virus is small. This is an incentive to get fully vaccinated.May 13, 2021 5:17 pm at 5:17 pm #1974329hujuParticipant
Ask your doctor. Period.May 13, 2021 8:21 pm at 8:21 pm #1974332
In life in everything we all have to do our Hishtadlus. But as an example when it comes to sickness if a gadol hador C”V became sick and he didn’t go to the doctor he would not be called as not doing his Hishtadlus due to the fact that on his high level of kedusha and faith etc… He doesn’t just know that only Hashem can heal him but on such a high level the medicine and doctor is like Avoda Zara to him. And such a tzaddik 80 levels higher then us physical people still living a life of physical pleasure and running after our desires and pleasures etc….. Is almost already with Hashem in the Olam Haemes.
May we all work on ourselves to become tzaddikim who turn directly to Hashem for help in anything we need from speedy recovery from sickness to livelihood to blessed children etc…..May 13, 2021 10:48 pm at 10:48 pm #1974367ujmParticipant
“Ask your doctor. Period.”
huju: What if your doctor tells you that you don’t need the vaccine. But then some government bureaucrats decree that unless you take the vaccine you are prohibited from doing X, Y and Z.May 13, 2021 11:29 pm at 11:29 pm #1974372
> government bureaucrats decree
So far, most of public health decisions are taken by elected officials, mostly governors and mayors.
CDC, FDA may slow down or speed up vaccine and drug approvals, and they may influence decision makers, but they are only providing recommendations. At least, if you happen to live in US.May 14, 2021 11:07 am at 11:07 am #1974441emes nisht shekerParticipant
If you did not have the virus, then no-brainer take the vaccine.
If you have antibodies but did not have symptoms of the virus take the vaccine because you might have had a false positive.
If you had symptoms and a positive COVID test and have antibodies, then probably a good idea to get the vaccine still, however not sure if necessary. Basically, I think, it is much more known how effective the vaccine is at preventing infection or reinfection than having had COVID.
The risks from the vaccine are so minimal that it should not really be a concern. Put it this way, it seems, the odds of getting COVID again and getting it bad are much higher than the risks associated with getting a vaccine.
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