Why should we not harrass the anti vaxers

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    whitecar
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    They keep saying we should stop harrasing them forbtue sake of ahavas yisrael. What about listening to all poskim and rabbanim? What about putting commuinties in danger? Your self righteousness is causing major chillul hashem and you have mo one to blame but yourself

    #1623424

    truthishidden
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    Most anti vaxers are parent of children who were harmed by vaccines. I wish you never to know their pain and may your child not be the next vaccine casualty, chalila.

    #1623389

    truthishidden
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    Most anti-vaxers are parents of children who were harmed by vaccines. I bless you all that you should continue to be blissfully unaware of the dangers of vaccines and may it not by your child as the next casualty, chalila.

    #1623438

    whitecar
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    Then why are Rabbonim not giving heterim and if there are Rabbonim that are, who are they?

    #1623439

    DaasYochid ☕
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    Amen.

    It’s not an excuse not to vaccinate, though.

    May your child not ch”v contract any of the illnesses which can be prevented by vaccines, nor pass them on to other children.

    #1623444

    👑RebYidd23
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    Provide one example of a person who was harmed by vaccines.

    #1623448

    midwesterner
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    Very, very few of anti-vaxxers are parents of children who were harmed by vaccines. I know many people who are anti vaxxers. Not a single one has a child harmed. (One has a spouse that had allergies to some related issues, and was helped by changing away from conventional medicine. But children? None.)
    As is well known, the original research that proved the link between vaccines and autism, that kick-started the entire movement, has been more than debunked. It has been proven fraudulent.

    #1623461

    Neville ChaimBerlin
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    If they insist on letting letting natural selection run its course, why do they have to mingle with the rest of us? Why can’t they move to an island somewhere and build an anti-vaxxer utopia. We’ll go check on them in a hundred years… and give them proper burials…

    #1623465

    truthishidden
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    Whitecar: “Then why are Rabbonim not giving heterim and if there are Rabbonim that are, who are they?”
    Actually there is a choshuva rav that paskened if a parent knows the dangers of vaccines it is assur for them to vaccinate. (I may be slightly misquoting, but that’s the general idea). I didn’t ask the Rav if I can quote him, so I don’t feel comfortable giving a name.

    #1623471

    The little I know
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    Because harassment will not provide immunity or cure any diseases. Yes, anti-vaxxers present a huge problem. But harassing them does not serve as solution. I am all in favor of all steps taken to prevent exposure, to provide vaccinations, etc. Ban when needed. Harassment does nothing except whet the appetite of those who want to take revenge. That is not any more acceptable as being irresponsible with children’s and public health.

    #1623506

    Takes2-2tango
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    truthishiddenParticipant
    Whitecar: “Then why are Rabbonim not giving heterim and if there are Rabbonim that are, who are they?”
    Actually there is a choshuva rav that paskened if a parent knows the dangers of vaccines it is assur for them to vaccinate. (I may be slightly misquoting, but that’s the general idea). I didn’t ask the Rav if I can quote him, so I don’t feel comfortable giving a name.-
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    If you consider this rav as a “dass torah”
    Then why in gds name would u or he not want to share it with us.
    Since when is halacha kept from the klall.
    Either say who authored this psak or dont bother mentioning it.

    #1623820

    The Great Unknown
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    disclaimer: i vaccinate .rav malkiel kotler does not vaccinate and reb chaim says u dont need to (I have no idea why the jewish media ignores this)

    #1624902

    Doing my best
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    You found two rabbanim, there are many more others who say you have to vaccinate.
    Do you know the wording of the question which was asked to R’ Chaim?

    #1624904

    Doing my best
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    PLEASE CHANGE LAST POST 2ND PARAGRAGH TO “Do you know the EXACT(not really capitilized) wording of the question posed to R’ Chaim?

    #1624913

    DaasYochid ☕
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    reb chaim says u dont need to

    Dr. Indich says he has seen a video (the owner hasn’t released it publicly) of R’ Chaim saying it is a chiyuv to vaccinate.

    It was taken after the letter in which he didn’t allow a school to refuse admission of a child in a specific case (in which there were apparently special circumstances).

    You can hear this on the latest “Headlines” podcast.

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