April 26, 2013 5:34 am at 5:34 am #609158NechomahParticipant
I see that the mother of the two suspected bombers from Boston believes that the whole business was faked. Unbelievable. Is she serious? Does she think that people dying was faked? That people losing their limbs was faked? For what purpose would this have been faked?
My question is really will people in Boston and those who have seen the truth of the situation have an inkling of understanding of how absurd Holocaust denial is?April 26, 2013 6:05 am at 6:05 am #948481🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
Great question. I always wonder if terror bombings like these will help someone understand the absurdity of talking peace with arabs.April 26, 2013 7:42 am at 7:42 am #948482NechomahParticipant
Great point Syag! I live here and I myself did not make that connection, but it is 100% spot on. Did you see the bit in the news about the person who has some high position in the UN who said that Boston “got what it deserved”, basically due to Obama coming to Israel and treating the Jews with respect? Another enlightened person in the world, no?April 26, 2013 11:45 am at 11:45 am #948483on the ballParticipant
Nechomah: Sadly this ‘person who has some high position at the UN’ is Richard Falk, a Jew who bears the same name and is possibly descended from the Pnei Yehoshua.April 26, 2013 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm #948484☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
It shows you how strong emotion can be binding. Sadly, Holocaust denial, which is purely based on sinas Yisroel, will not become any less rare.April 26, 2013 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm #948485HaLeiViParticipant
She’s their mother.April 26, 2013 1:05 pm at 1:05 pm #948486
Yishmoel-like behavior. The don’t have gedorim for truth. Anybody there can say the most outrageous, preposterous lies with a straight face.April 26, 2013 1:06 pm at 1:06 pm #948487oomisParticipant
If they didn’t learn from several wars, 9/11, jihadist terrorist bombings throughout the world, and now this, they will NEVER learn. We cannot make peace with the Arabs. The only peace they want is a piece of us. And yes, there may even be one or two exceptions who are good and decent people and even may be makir tov to Israel. Yishmael did teshuvah at the end also. But they are few and far between.April 26, 2013 2:12 pm at 2:12 pm #948488
Ha’Levi, there are limits to that also.April 26, 2013 4:38 pm at 4:38 pm #948489🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
As their mother she can feel sorry for them and continue loving them unconditionally. Saying they were framed when she knew that they chose a culture where this is accepted is just ridiculous.April 26, 2013 5:08 pm at 5:08 pm #948490yytzParticipant
I’m sympathetic to the sentiment that making peace with Arabs is impossible (at least for the foreseeable future). I just wanted to point out that Chechens, while Muslims, are not Arab. Of course, similar ideologies are spread through the Muslim world. But we shouldn’t necessarily assume all Muslim ethnic groups are representative of Arabs.
The bombers’ mother lived through Soviet times, when the government was not to be trusted and the justice system was a farce, and Russia is not much better now. Add to that the paranoid thinking associated with radical Muslims, and it’s not hard to understand why she may be spouting these conspiracy theories.
More broadly, conspiracy thinking may be quite common in the region. After “Borat” made fun of Kazakhstan, the president of that country claimed it was some plot from Western governments to harm his country. Right after the older Boston bomber died, the president of Chechnya (republics in the Russian federation have presidents) suggested that the government killed him on purpose in order to calm society “at any cost.” He may not have read the news very closely, because it’s hard to survive when you’re shooting at police, lobbing explosives at them, and getting run over by your brother!
To answer the original question, it’s possible this will help some people see how absurd Holocaust denial is — hopefully that will happen. But the people who deny the Shoah are also the same kind of people who may believe that the bombers really were set up, and that there was some kind of government conspiracy. There is apparently a very serious Facebook page with 1000 or more members claiming that at least the younger brother is innocent.April 26, 2013 8:47 pm at 8:47 pm #948491
Yytz, they act like that in all situations.
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