Will This Ever Change?
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September 4, 2017 11:34 am at 11:34 am #1354229
This article brought me to tears. I spent years living this scenario. The greatest educators speak of the damage it causes children and families but nothing changes. I sent my youngest son to school today full of anxiety over another year of stress. Can we even hope it will ever change?September 4, 2017 3:04 pm at 3:04 pm #1354315
Ch”v that I should “argue” against my sons’ Rosh Hayeshiva however I do like to play devils advocate.
This works very well if one has one rebbe and one teacher so they know how much homework/test they are giving
However if one has a math teacher, an English teacher, a science teacher etc. how does one expect that they should coordinate their schedule with the others especially with yomim tovim and the likeSeptember 4, 2017 3:04 pm at 3:04 pm #1354316
Btw the Satan pays me top dollar to be his advocate 😈 💵🤑September 4, 2017 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm #1354366iacisrmmaParticipant
As one notices in reading the article he does not even mention what the policy is in his own yeshiva.September 4, 2017 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm #1354372
UnlessSeptember 4, 2017 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm #1354354JosephParticipant
Let the kids skip doing their homework, when most appropriate.September 4, 2017 4:03 pm at 4:03 pm #1354397lesschumrasParticipant
Girls yeshivas have been piling on the homework for years. My friends daughter would often not get to bed before midnight.
When i was in yeshiva h.s. 55 years ago, my school day startec st 9 am and ran until 6:10. I had t0 leave the house at 7:30 in the morning and was lucky to return home by 7:30 . After sitting down to eat supper, i was usually too tired to do any homework and never did any.September 4, 2017 5:36 pm at 5:36 pm #1354448
Coffee I can’t believe you have a kid that old! My kids have gone to schools with a system in place for all that.September 4, 2017 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #1354503☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Coffee I can’t believe you have a kid that old!
I wonder how old, but don’t want to put CA on the spot. In younger grades, it’s not usually departmentalized. (unrelated point) I believe studies have shown no benefit to homework in younger grades.
My kids have gone to schools with a system in place for all that.
I’m curious as to what system that is. I thought of two approaches, but don’t know how feasible they are in reality; either a principal can see all assignments and tell teachers to adjust as necessary, or each teacher can be allotted a cerain amount of time (e.g 3-5 minutes).September 4, 2017 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm #1354517LubavitcherParticipant
lol here the boys grade 6 start 7:30 ends 5pm and grade 7 starts at 7:00 ends 6:30 pm and everyone above those grades 8-10 starts 6:30 ends 7:30 and grade 11 starts 6:30 ends 9:30September 4, 2017 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm #1354518
How old do you think my kids are
Btw my kids aren’t old enough to have all those subjects I’m just saying that it can get that hectic but what are you going to doSeptember 4, 2017 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm #1354575CTLAWYERParticipant
I have been on the board of various day schools and am a local elected official. The following is the Board of Education Homework Guidelines from their published policy. I have removed any mention of the town.
Guidelines by Grade Level
In establishing homework guidelines, it is important to consider the individual differences of
students and availability of resources. The following time allotments are a general guide and do
not include time recommended for “standing expectations” such as but not limited to silent
reading, practicing math facts, reviewing high frequency words, and practicing music skills.
Grades K – 5
Grades K-1 – Adjusted to the maturity and readiness of the child
Grade 2 – average 15 – 20 min per night
Grade 3 – average 25 – 30 min per night
Grade 4 – average 35 – 45 min per night
Grade 5 – average 45 – 55 min per night
No homework should be assigned at the elementary level on weekends and school vacations
other than, but not limited to, reinforcement work, and completion of weekly classroom
Grades 6 – 8
Grade 6 – average 60-70 min per night
Grade 7 – average 75-90 min per night
Grade 8 – average 90-120 min per night
Additional homework time may be needed depending on the rigor of courses in a student’s
program of studies.
Grades 9 – 12
2 – 3 hours per night
Additional homework time may be needed depending on the rigor and number of courses in
a student’s program of studies.
As parents we never allowed our children to do homework after 10 PM. If it couldn’t be completed by that time a note was sent to the teacher that they were giving an unhealthy amount of homework and we wanted an immediate meeting with teacher and principal. This usually brought a major reduction in the amount of homework assigned.September 4, 2017 10:29 pm at 10:29 pm #1354579
coffee – I picture you as a young guy with kids no more than 5 or 6 (weren’t I around when you were just a bachur?)
DY – don’t remember the specifics but there was a 20-25 minute limit for secular and 20-25 for limudei kodesh. Math and language arts alternated days, “Hebrew teachers” as we called them, chose assignments at will that required no more than that time slot. Test days were assigned and there was a sign up, Math tests Mon, Reading tests Tuesday etc with no more than two tests allowed on a day (a test calendar was posted somewhere)
CTL – those times are ridiculous if those kids are coming home from school any later than 3:15. My kids get home after 5, have “night learning” from 7:30-8:45 and are supposed to have supper. I don’t consider 45 minutes humane, let alone 90 minutes.September 4, 2017 10:49 pm at 10:49 pm #1354591LubavitcherParticipant
Lol we never learned any English subjects …September 4, 2017 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm #1354602
Close! My bechor is turning older than that by a little bit (not going to be specific because I would be giving too much info
And when I started I was in beis MedreshSeptember 5, 2017 12:30 am at 12:30 am #1354634
School was not designed for the children.September 5, 2017 8:58 am at 8:58 am #1354691chabadgalParticipant
CTL- the thing you may be forgetting is the Board of Education is based on public schools. Who finish ar 2:00. So they have time for homework. I come home from -high school- after 5, and thats without staying late to help for programs. I am unable to do hours of homework a night. I spend my whole day in school my nights should be free.
I am in school five days a week, eight hours a day, If we cant be tought everything during that time then theres an issue with the teachers. We should spent our time at home finishing up class time.September 5, 2017 8:58 am at 8:58 am #1354696chabadgalParticipant
I think the main issue by us is we have about 15 teachers. So each teacher doesnt give morethan twenty minutes a day max but this adds up and thats besides for all our tests and quizzesSeptember 5, 2017 12:36 pm at 12:36 pm #1354970
We’ve forgotten that the most important things a child has to learn cannot be taught in schools or with homework.
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