August 18, 2022 1:04 pm at 1:04 pm #2116365moishekapoiehParticipant
But of course he won’t.
He is the slickest, slyest politician around, surrounded with enough sleazy lawyers so that he won’t see a prison cell unless the REAL Moshiach shows up soon.
Chaval !!!August 18, 2022 3:36 pm at 3:36 pm #2116481
I predicted , 3 or more years ago, that Trump would wind up in Russia. So, no, he’ll not go to jail but will be a convicted felon.August 18, 2022 3:37 pm at 3:37 pm #2116492Amil ZolaParticipant
It’s gonna be more than difficult to fit the Secret Service in a 6×9 cell.August 18, 2022 3:37 pm at 3:37 pm #2116494
If the Democrat Justice Dept politicizes a political persecution of President Trump and tries to imprison him, they know that the next Republican Justice Dept will return the favor and find every traffic infraction to failure to report any political contribution to bust multiple top national Democrat politicians to bust into their home in middle of the night and lead them out in handcuffs, where the tipped of media will be outside taking pictures (just as the Democrat prosecutors did), and they’ll be charged with every imaginable and unimaginable crime under the sun.
Don’t forget the old adage that a Federal prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich. There’s a real truth behind that.
The Democrats know their political persecutions will have this result and are afraid. They may still choose to engage in political persecutions; but they won’t be surprised when the favor is returned when the next time the political pendulum swings to a Republican Administration (maybe even President Trump, second term — that’ll be fun as the Left has four years of heart attacks.)August 19, 2022 7:19 am at 7:19 am #2116607RomainParticipant
If that happens (which wont happen) then there will
Be a civil warAugust 19, 2022 9:30 am at 9:30 am #2116619akupermaParticipant
When being politically incorrect is a crime, people like Trump will be cancelled, and either thrown in jail or “reeducated”. He has a legitimate dispute over ownership of personal papers, and instead of litigating it in the courts, the Democrats just sent in the FBI to seize the paper by making a false claim they were stolen government property (which needs to be determined in a civil proceeding).
The real crime is political incorrectness, and Trump is clearly guilty. In Britain they could pass a bill of attainder, but in America they need to fake criminal charges.
Since most of us are also politically incorrect (be realistic, being frum is offensive to the WOKE, our necks are on the line as well), we should worry. The solution is to make sure the Democrats do not get solid control of the Congress, since a solidly blue Congress and a Democratic president means their WOKE base will define the agenda.
If Trump takes control of the Republican party (and it appears he has done so, and his endorsement tilts primaries), there is a serious threat of a massive blue wave in the 2022 and 2024 elections. Note how Trump made the Senate “blue” by turning two Republican seats in Georgia into Democratic seats – and it appears he is doing the same thing nationally.August 19, 2022 9:37 am at 9:37 am #2116621
Huju, how do you explain Trump’s pressure on Europe to close northstream, contribute more to NATO, produce more oil and gas in USA and export to Europe? All of that was undermining Putin’s plans that are clear now in hindsight.
I won’t deny that Russians and Chinese would support any divisiness, including both sides, but still their friends are marked by supporting Russian interests at the end even if not overly. For example, fight against nuclear power and climate made Europe dependent on Russian gas, enabling this war. I am sure you can point to some aspect of Trump that benefits Russia, say increase in tensions between USA and EU, but as described his core positions were against Russian core strategy.August 19, 2022 1:15 pm at 1:15 pm #2116634yaakov doeParticipant
Why is Trump regarded almost as a deity who is infallible by so many?August 19, 2022 3:14 pm at 3:14 pm #2116705
He isn’t.August 19, 2022 5:37 pm at 5:37 pm #2116765yungermanSParticipant
Hillary Clinton and Hunter Biden should first be locked up in prison behind bars way before Donald Trump
Welcome to the corrupt world and corrupt government your living in sadly. Wake yourselves up to the truth of what is REALLY GOING ONAugust 21, 2022 8:27 am at 8:27 am #2116896crazykanoiyParticipant
Hopefully, they offer him a plea deal to retire in Slovenia or somewhere remote with a commitment to stay out of American politics so that he will no longer be a danger to American democracy.August 21, 2022 8:28 am at 8:28 am #2116948
To AAQ: You ask a reasonable question, and I have no evidence to inform my answer. I
nevertheless believe that Trump has done enough of what Putin asked him to do that Putin likely promised Trump a safe haven.August 21, 2022 10:37 am at 10:37 am #2116960
Funny to see the CR leftists coming out of the woodwork to drool all over themselves in this thread, fantasizing about Trump going to prison. You are so stuck in your TDS that you fail to realize that Trump isn’t a person, it’s a movement to get rid of anti-American globalist elites in power, corrupt life-long politicians who enrich themselves on the public’s dime, and unelected deep-state bureaucrats who think they can create and enforce new laws like emperors. It also works to reinstate some semblance of morality, self-respect, and personal responsibility into the social fabric of America. It’s too bad the Left embraces the opposite of all these things.August 21, 2022 11:30 am at 11:30 am #2117018
To Curiosity: a. I have not drooled at all. I save that for babka and milk.
b. Trump is the leader of a movement, but he is, as far as I can tell, also a criminal. The movement will live on without him. Much of what you accuse left-wing politicians of is also true of Trump.August 21, 2022 1:25 pm at 1:25 pm #2117032
To Curuiosity: You did not answer the OP’s question.August 21, 2022 1:32 pm at 1:32 pm #2117043
Huju, this is cognitive dissonance that you need to attend to. We all always look at the events when they happen, form opinions that are hard to change later. So, we now know what exactly Putin’s plan was: take over a neighbor unless they submit to threats and use economic threats to keep soft part of Europe neutral and keep oil price high to feed his own. I am not able to point to any Trump policy that helped that and see above for ones that were against it. Same time lots of Obama Biden Merkel policies that achieved oppositeAugust 21, 2022 1:59 pm at 1:59 pm #2117055
“Much of what you accuse left-wing politicians of is also true of Trump.”
Yes, but we’re willing to admit it. When democrats do something you pretend it never happenedAugust 21, 2022 5:51 pm at 5:51 pm #2117108
Maybe Trump will go to jail to visit Bannon, Giuliani and some of his other dupes.August 21, 2022 6:02 pm at 6:02 pm #2117116
@huju, the answer is self evident. if Trump is a movement and not an individual, then the political persecution, disproportionate punishment, and jailing of the people who are at the grass roots of this movement has already begun. Just look at the non-violent trespassers from the January 6th protest still languishing in prison with no charges many months later, while the hundreds of violent BLM looters and arsonists are walking around freely. It should be undesirable for even you to have Trump, the man, personally sit in prison, because the only consequence of such an event will be additional, significant edging towards a civil war, which the Left will surely lose.August 21, 2022 6:11 pm at 6:11 pm #2117120jackkParticipant
The current Republican party just said the quiet part out loud . We are all insurrectionists.August 22, 2022 12:02 am at 12:02 am #2117152mdd1Participant
Curiuosity, do you understand the difference between looting a story and storming one of the seats of the US government in order to illegally transfer power to someone to whom it does not belong?August 22, 2022 8:51 am at 8:51 am #2117239
mdd1, do you understand the difference between “storming one of the seats of the US government in order to illegally transfer power to someone to whom it does not belong,” and walking slowly and calmly into a building after being waved in by security?
Just look at the comments from Biden’s own prosecutor Michael Sherwin, who explains the real reason for jailing protestors was to create “shock and awe” as a deterrent before the inauguration. Look at people like Anthony Griffith, who did nothing more than walk calmly into an empty hallway to take photos and got 7 years in prison. Meanwhile you’ve got murderers and gang members released from blue state prisons “due to Covid.” If it wasn’t so outrageous it would be laughable.August 22, 2022 8:51 am at 8:51 am #2117237
Were people had? Some leftwingers are boasting that republicans were not able to focus on criticizing recent climate reduction bill because they voted so quickly before details were understood and fox was talking about the raid 24-7. Would it be too much to credit bidenistas with timing these events? Given their score record this seems unlikely but the coincidence did happenAugust 22, 2022 10:59 am at 10:59 am #2117286mdd1Participant
Curiousity, if they were waved in by the security people, I hear. However, I do not believe that version of the story unless backed up by serious evidence. And to “create shock and awe” is a legitimate reason — in the Torah law it is called “le’ma’an ishmeu ve’irau” and migdar milsa. So that they do not think of doing such a thing another time.August 22, 2022 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm #2117309
MDD: You need proof of guilt. They don’t need to prove their innocence.August 22, 2022 1:28 pm at 1:28 pm #2117351jackkParticipant
If you are in a protected area of the capital and are arrested, you need to prove your innocent.
So far, the excuses have not worked for a single one of the over 800 people arrested.
All the excuses so far have been rejected by judge and juries.August 22, 2022 1:28 pm at 1:28 pm #2117338yaakov doeParticipant
Curiosity, I saw videos of a surge of people with Trump flags and Trump hats breaking through barricades, attacking police officers and breaking doors and windows to enter the building but none of them being waved in. Are there different videos showing peaceful protesters being waved in? Where can I find them?August 22, 2022 1:28 pm at 1:28 pm #2117330smerelParticipant
No way Trump is going to jail. It doesn’t suit the Democrats purposes. If Trump were in jail (1)The Democrats would not him as the bogey man to revolve their whole party agenda around anymore and (2)it would galvanize Republican and independent voters who hate Trump to vote Republican anyway (3)would set a precedent that would land many Democrat lawmakers in jail as well.
Therefore the Democrats are just going to continue what they have done for past six years which is to tell us of how Trump is a major threat to Democracy , assure us that they have the information to send him to jail which is about to be made public. But never actually send him to jail.August 22, 2022 4:21 pm at 4:21 pm #2117395
Sadly, I find myself in total agreement with Smerel. The inmates at any federal prison would seek an immediate “compassionate release” if forced to share a cellblock with the prior POTUS.August 22, 2022 4:21 pm at 4:21 pm #2117405erParticipant
Curiosity: “Just look at the comments from Biden’s own prosecutor Michael Sherwin, who explains the real reason for jailing protestors was to create “shock and awe” as a deterrent before the inauguration.”
Your statement is dishonest. Not sure if you read the actual interview or got it from a trump website? Sherwin (a Trump appointee, by the way) said the reason why they wanted to charge many people QUICKLY before January 20 was to deter more violent people from coming to the inauguration. Law enforcement was going to pursue this either way. But as we law and order folk understand, one of the reasons behind enforcement is deterrence. He was just saying they wanted to move quickly in this case. Shame on you or those who twist your mind for trying to twist ours. Try emes.August 22, 2022 9:57 pm at 9:57 pm #2117438
Hmmm…. “When democrats do something you pretend it never happened”
Is that a suggestion that Democrats connected with the Obama or Biden admins committed crimes equivalent to Trump and his associates and due to the “deep state” or whatever you want to call it they got off?
Because if so, I completely disagree with your conjecture. Your imagination of equivalent or worse crimes committed does not actually equal equivalent or worse crimes committed.
Seems many Trump supporters here make a similar mistake, being that if they decide they want to believe something it must be true. Guess this is “your truth.”
Would be of benefit if you actually took a deep breath, considered the facts out there (not just what Trump or his champions told you), and tried to form independent conclusions.
You do know what Trump said… He said in very strong terms that he would enforce all the laws regarding confidential information and how no one is above the law. Only with Trump supporters do you get to get away with being such a hypocrite.August 22, 2022 10:07 pm at 10:07 pm #2117468
well that was a pretty odd response. You took a quote of mine but nothing you said had anything to do with me or what I said. Or what I have ever said. I have never made deep state comments and nothing I ever said was about equating anything with anything. or supporting trump or defending trump. If you actually read the conversation you would see how silly your comment is because my point is that I DON’T defend trump.
That’s the problem with jumping in to a conversation you weren’t a part of and then just giving over one of many anti trump or anti trump voter or anti anyone who says something anti democrat speeches.
Im sure there are plenty of posts here worth responding to but at least make sure you know what the person said/says before you start your soapbox comments.August 23, 2022 8:57 am at 8:57 am #2117557
If the Mods were tasked with assuring the relevance of each response to the OP, we would not only lose time in posting but also miss some of the unique comic relief offered by our regular off-topic CRniks.August 23, 2022 9:19 am at 9:19 am #2117585YW Moderator-29 👨💻Moderator
😁August 23, 2022 11:23 am at 11:23 am #2117619
Must have misread your comment.
Wait one second… rereading it, seems you have no idea what you wrote and did not bother actually reading my comment.
😂August 23, 2022 11:40 am at 11:40 am #2117658
The entirety of my comment was that we are willing to admit when trump does things wrong, dems pretend nothing happened. NONE of that is related to what you ranted about. Zip and zero.
More of the “I never said that even tho it’s right there in print”. Sounds familiar….August 23, 2022 2:15 pm at 2:15 pm #2117749Reb EliezerParticipant
They have to send a secret service man to jail also to protect him as he knows too much.August 23, 2022 3:46 pm at 3:46 pm #2117785
When the Inspector General of DHS/Secret Service is himself under investigation for failing to disclose the “coincidental” deletion of SS text mails for the 1/6 time frame as part of a “routine system upgrade” it only affirms the craziness of the times we live in. No proof whatsoever that those deleted texts are hidden along with Hillary’s email server somewhere in Uman.August 23, 2022 5:52 pm at 5:52 pm #2117827
I am curious: was there a Democrat in general or in CR who called for full investigation of Hunter’s businesses in order to clear his name from unfounded accusations?August 24, 2022 12:11 am at 12:11 am #2117926
Why would you call for a full investigation to clear someone’s name from unfounded accusations?
Rather any decent person would demand those making such unfounded accusations present their evidence.
Also, Hunter is not the President nor as far as I can tell (I am sure Tucker and some here will say otherwise… but unfounded accusations should require the accuser to present evidence, not someone else to debunk it) is anything related to the President under investigation so who really cares? Frankly, Joe Biden should simply follow Donald Trump’s precedent and issue a pardon, regardless of the close connection here. That would put the whole issue to rest and Trump supporters should be on board with that. Joe Biden can even call it a witch hunt and complain no President was ever treated as bad as he was. Doing that should really get support from Trump fans because they love that type of talk.August 24, 2022 7:15 am at 7:15 am #2117966☕️coffee addictParticipant
“Rather any decent person would demand those making such unfounded accusations present their evidence.”
Like asking them to reveal the whole warrant affidavit?August 24, 2022 1:09 pm at 1:09 pm #2118075
Gadol> Inspector General of DHS/Secret Service is himself under investigation for failing to disclose the “coincidental” deletion of SS text
It is not the first time I see that SS was apparently fond of Trump, as long as multiple stories of some other presidents not being their favorite. These are people who see Presidents daily and closely. Is there any good reason for their preferences?August 25, 2022 12:21 am at 12:21 am #2118303
coffee addict – your logic does not make sense.
What does making unfounded accusations have to do with enforcing a warrant? Or are you referring to Trump slinging mud at others and presenting no evidence to support his claims? At least in terms of the warrant, Trump in his own legal filings admitted to keeping top secret info that he previously said he did not have.August 25, 2022 4:37 pm at 4:37 pm #2118578
According to YWN, Trump had a meltdown, as evidenced by some of his recent tweets. Maybe he thinks he might be going to jail. Or maybe he agrees with me that he is going to Russia, but is getting cold feet.
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