August 19, 2020 10:11 am at 10:11 am #1893735commonsaychelParticipant
shul members also run services at another location for about 180 more. However, with social distance, only about 25 people can be accommodated in the outdoor terrace, about 50 in the main shul, and about 30 in the social hall. And there aren’t a lot of other options.
Wow, so some good came out of Corona, less people getting drunk at the kiddush at Avi Weiss’s so call shul, that is a huge plusAugust 19, 2020 2:42 pm at 2:42 pm #1893856
For a short while everything was falling into a good place. All the zuggers had nothing to say. Shuls were closed. People were not forced to daven anywhere. They could choose how, when and where to learn. The yeshivos were shut. We learned how , when, and what, we wanted. Bein Adam Lamakom was really going somewhere positive. Than we were able to reopen, and we reopened the needless stuff first. Oh, well. Maybe next time.August 20, 2020 11:06 am at 11:06 am #1894109Shimon NodelParticipant
Forshayer, davening 50 apart outside isn’t a minyan even if there are a thousand people. Unless there are some kind of mechitzos or structure. Ask your ravAugust 20, 2020 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #1894188zahavasdadParticipant
I personally know FRUM people who died and other FRUM PEOPLE who were sick for a long time (And others sick for a short time)
The virus is not a hoax, It is real and affects our communities. I don’t care if others think its OK to protest and risk getting themselves sick. That should not be our consideration. Better to be safe now and have lots more Rosh hashanas to celebrateAugust 20, 2020 3:01 pm at 3:01 pm #1894203
As long as one can see and hear the others it is a minyan. But not a tzibbur.August 20, 2020 4:05 pm at 4:05 pm #1894217ForshayerParticipant
@Shimon, I did ask my Rav, and was given the okay. Second, the specific person who I spoke of who sits 50 feet away was one person who was part of a group of 20-50 people depending on the Tfila and the specific day. He feels the need to sit as far away as possible from anyone else and wears a mask. The main minyan is spread out all along mine and my neighbors front lawn and was okayed by our local Rabbi’s. I would give names but I don’t feel the need to hear another comment re Rabbi’s from @common.August 20, 2020 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm #1894226ForshayerParticipant
For the whole of Chodesh Nissan that we had my Minyan, I was the Chazan 3 times a day 7 days a week. I was told that they heard me both up Jay Court and on Antionette which is the other side of Forshay Road. Based on that, we had over 100 Mispallelim. I am still hoarse from that time and was happy that my neighbor who was a Chiyuv took over.August 21, 2020 12:09 am at 12:09 am #1894362charliehallParticipant
Good news! I am able to get consistent notes out of the shofar after only four days. Tomorrow I will blow after Mussaf as my first official shofar blast. 🙂 I have a long way to go before I will be able to do 100 blasts but as in other things, growth comes slowly.August 21, 2020 12:10 am at 12:10 am #1894363charliehallParticipant
“less people getting drunk at the kiddush at Avi Weiss’s so call shul”
It is a real shul, now with the largest membership in the Bronx. It remains a member of the Orthodox Union.
And it isn’t Rabbi Weiss’s shul any more. He retired five years ago and does not play a role in decisionmaking there.
And the shul has not served alcohol at kiddushes in decades. There used to be a kiddush club but Rabbi Weiss spent years trying to stamp it out; he succeeded by tearing down the building to which it had been exiled. It is nice to go to Purim and Simchat Torah and not be surrounded by drunkenness.August 27, 2020 12:38 pm at 12:38 pm #1896201☕️coffee addictParticipant
I think the bigger question is all the people who live in apartments (especially in eretz yisrael) how are they going to do sukkah?August 27, 2020 3:01 pm at 3:01 pm #1896245GadolhadorahParticipant
With 6 weeks of lead time, it should be possible for frum neighborhoods to erect communal sukkahs that would provide brief opportunities for socially distanced and masked visits by residents who want to be yotzeh the mitzvah of eating kazayit bread etc. Not ideal but certainly better than nothing. Obviously, there will need to be someone designated to control entry/exist to avoid crowding. People can sign-up in advance.August 27, 2020 4:24 pm at 4:24 pm #18963222scentsParticipant
“The virus is not a hoax, It is real and affects our communities. I don’t care if others think its OK to protest and risk getting themselves sick.”
a. we still do not really know how best to contain it. NY despite its aggressive measures was hit the worst.
b. was there any increase in hospitalizations after the protests? Maybe mass gatherings and more asymptomatic positives are a good thing, as it increases herd immunity?August 27, 2020 5:24 pm at 5:24 pm #1896331☕️coffee addictParticipant
I asked my rav it’s something we’re going to have to address as it gets closerAugust 29, 2020 9:56 pm at 9:56 pm #1896694takahmamashParticipant
My doctor told me not to go, so I”m not going. Neither are any of my family. I have a shofar, I know how to use it, so I will blow it here for us and anyone else outside who wants to hear it.August 30, 2020 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm #1896927GoldilocksParticipant
Takahmamash, it’s impressive that you have a shofar and know how to use it. But please don’t use it at your home minyan on the first day of Rosh Hashana.August 30, 2020 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm #1897016
I am wondering about the non orthodox communities. Many of their services are live streamed. But would those that only show for the High Holy Days join in? This could mean a major disconnect at the extreme edge of Judaism.September 7, 2020 7:12 am at 7:12 am #1899068ZSKParticipant
We will unfortunately not be in Shul and for the first time in years, I will not be leining. I’m asthmatic and have terrible allergies that make mask wearing extremely difficult after about 45 minutes. There are public shofar blowings all over the city at various times (we live in israel), we’ll go to one of them.September 7, 2020 9:27 am at 9:27 am #1899099Y B YerushalayimParticipant
A pity you can’t use a virtual bais medrash on Rosh Hashana! Zoomtorah. comSeptember 8, 2020 4:51 pm at 4:51 pm #1899520
How about going to shul for half an hour at a time?September 11, 2020 9:55 am at 9:55 am #1900568ZSKParticipant
I wish I could. I unfortunately have a child who seems to get sick far too frequently for me to be comfortable going to shul under the current circumstances. Also, considering the impending lockdown in Israel, who knows if there even will be a minyan to goto.September 21, 2020 5:06 pm at 5:06 pm #1903237commonsaychelParticipant
Our Shul was full, both mens and esras nashim, a group of people did not feel comfortable in the shul and they all chipped in and rented a tent and put it in the shuls driveway and kept 6 ft. apart and everyone was happy.September 21, 2020 10:51 pm at 10:51 pm #1903331GadolhadorahParticipant
Having started this thread over a month ago still undecided as to whether our family would be comfortable back in shul for the yamim noraim, it has been interesting to follow the commentary on both side of the issue. Fortunately, this has been a really respectful and informative series of posts that truly illustrate the degree that Covid has turned our world upside down. At the end, we made our decision not to go inside and along with a few other families did the best we could with an impromtu outside minyan which allowed for social distancing, albeit with an abbreviated davening. It was both empowering yet very sad. B’YH, this will all be a memory for Rosh Hashanah next year and hopefully, maybe even by next spring. Shanah Tovah to all.September 21, 2020 11:07 pm at 11:07 pm #1903339
What could be sad about an abbreviated davening?
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