January 5, 2009 1:29 am at 1:29 am #637030JosephParticipant
brooklyn, The actors use makeup and all sorts of junk to put on a false face.January 5, 2009 1:31 am at 1:31 am #637031
joseph – don’t be so sure… what makes you think so?January 5, 2009 1:39 am at 1:39 am #637032anonymisssParticipant
Joseph- where do you get your infor from?January 5, 2009 1:41 am at 1:41 am #637033anonymisssParticipant
btw, I just got a new username. Formerly abcd.January 5, 2009 1:44 am at 1:44 am #637034JosephParticipant
its an old story and no secret. its well-known.January 5, 2009 1:44 am at 1:44 am #637035
joseph – still. plenty of people put on makeup and don’t look nearly like that. like i said – not all actors are so gorgeous. a select few are – and you could tell. lol i’m kinda picky – if you can’t tell on your own.January 5, 2009 3:56 am at 3:56 am #637039squeakParticipant
Well, if makeup alone doesn’t do it, there’s always the option for rhinoplasty and the like. It’s a cutthroat business staying on the “A-list”.January 5, 2009 4:20 am at 4:20 am #637040
oh so that’s an option? marry a guy on the condition he’ll get plastic surgery? i’d consider it an option, but i want my kids to have pretty genes too… :}January 5, 2009 5:53 am at 5:53 am #637041
intellegent, I was just kiddig, but maybe… I hope the situation gets better so I am still able to go. I wanna get married so that i can move there already!
bym, ok good so there still is hope, its something worth finding out about, I really dont c how someone could miss out on that year, the last year of being a child.January 5, 2009 10:35 am at 10:35 am #637042
” i guess i’ll just have to hang on till i meet him. i’ve sorta got high standards…”
Yeah, and then when you meet him he’ll think that you’re not good looking…
“and not all actors play the “prince” in every movie.”
Even the guys in the movies who are supposed to look shaggy and unkempt, there are extremely professional make up artists who know how to keep them looking good at the same time.
btw, it’s wierd because I’ve watched my share of videos in my life (unfortunately) and for some reason, I never associated their looks with real life. Maybe because they are so far removed from our culture. (or maybe because many men I know have beards…) Hey! Maybe go out with someone with a beard, they’ll look so different than in the movies, you won’t be able to compare! LOL! You don’t sound like the type! LOL! 😀
(Don’t gasp, but I married the first guy I met so you probably cannot compare our situations!)January 5, 2009 2:40 pm at 2:40 pm #637043
are you sure you want to live here???
It’s a lot different than sem and I don’t know how many personal shoppers are available…
cut out the pickiness, you’re not half as amazing as you think you are.January 5, 2009 3:56 pm at 3:56 pm #637044
come on bym!! share with me the sems! i wont tell! lol! and anyhows that rly wont help discover who you are!January 5, 2009 4:11 pm at 4:11 pm #637045
yes I am really sure, just because I have these things now doesnt mean that I need them and further than that doesnt mean i enjoy receiving it… I know this is all stupidity, Israel is the real thing, I cant wait to return… I really would love to live there as long as possible but the boys dont feel that love as storng so its hard while dating…January 5, 2009 6:28 pm at 6:28 pm #637046
that’s nice of you. maybe i am? i mean, i think i’m pretty ok and so many guys as just dull and blah. 3/4 of them are willing to marry the first girl they go out with. which means they’re either suckers who flip for a girl with some makeup or they’re really not particular. either way, i want more from a guy.January 5, 2009 6:53 pm at 6:53 pm #637047
brooklyn is very rite, but its also hard there r so little guys out there that have my personality plus my frumkiet, i act crazy on dates so they know the real me…January 5, 2009 6:56 pm at 6:56 pm #637048
I know some people who spoke like you and were on the first flight home after the next zman.
there’s nothing wrong with marrying the first girl, boy. After all, the first date you ever go on is practice? There should be a potential, no? In my case, the first one who came was the right one. I don’t like your attitude.January 5, 2009 7:05 pm at 7:05 pm #637049
bored – you sound like me
intell – of course. but there is a general trend that a see. of course it’s not always. some sidduchim are so perfect and they hit it off in a second.
and you don’t have to like my attitude. you’re not marring me.January 5, 2009 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #637050PhyllisMember
intellegent, believe it or not there are pple that do’t take dating as serious as u might have. Someone suggest a boy/ girl and they try it out. They can end up on a date with a quako. Probably in ur circles the candidate is checked out prior and therefore the chances of marrying the first one is likely.
brooklyn19, I dont think many guys want to marry the first girls they meet. You may have an attractive personality…dont take it for granted.January 5, 2009 7:38 pm at 7:38 pm #637051
brooklyn, i agree with intelligent that there is nothing wrong with marrying the frist boy you date. many girls have done so and have lived very happy lives, just as happy as their friends who married the 5th, 7th, 10th or 30th. at the right time for all iy”h and if it is the first than b”h! and im glad you think your prety, b”h for your healthy self esteem!
and bored@work, many ppl claim they would love to live in israel for a long, long time but then just havta come home to mommy (im sure you know some ppl like that) but i hope your able to fulfill your dream!January 5, 2009 9:31 pm at 9:31 pm #637052
hey don’t get me wrong. i wish i didn’t have to go through the torture of dating so many guys. but like i said, very often it’s the people with a head on their shoulders who date more till they get married. again, not always!January 5, 2009 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm #637053thinkinghelpsMember
keepinEntertained…you are very wise for your age…January 5, 2009 11:31 pm at 11:31 pm #637054
“but its also hard there r so little guys out there that have my personality”
Never mind the language usage… There are actually no guys who have your personality. Everyone is unique. You will never find someone so specific. he doesn’t exist.
“i act crazy on dates so they know the real me”
You act crazy on dates?
I don’t have to like or do have to like it, I don’t like it. Just stating a fact.January 6, 2009 12:49 am at 12:49 am #637055Bais Yaakov maydelParticipant
keepinentertained: thats not the point!! i can just imagine every person in the CR putting their 2 cents in about each of the sems im applying to….what a nightmare lol.
bored@work: i dont see it that way lol why cant i still be a kid even when i hit the big 2-0? (which btw is in almost 2 years my bdays on friday) 🙂January 6, 2009 1:38 am at 1:38 am #637056
intellegent, you are probably talking about my friends because i know people that did that, but why think about the worst? y not hope for the best and hopefully i wont be there for one or two years (even if you dont think i can make it that long) but longer than that…
brooklyn, so lets go hurry up and get there already, also everytime I finish with a boy its so annoying like to start the whole thing over again, your like back at the beginning point..ech…January 6, 2009 1:50 am at 1:50 am #637057squeakParticipant
Here’s a quote that’s missing from the quotes thread:
“You are unique, just like everybody else.” -DustyJanuary 6, 2009 2:44 am at 2:44 am #637058
getting back to the original topic…my plans unfortunately changed. i won’t be going to israel 🙁January 6, 2009 2:52 am at 2:52 am #637059surferMember
snowtubing and then shopping at the crossings:)January 6, 2009 3:58 am at 3:58 am #637060asdfghjklParticipant
dunno: THAT’S SO SAD!!!January 6, 2009 4:11 am at 4:11 am #637061
ur telling me?? i might go to london instead but that doesn’t nearly compare to israel. oh well, gam zu l’tovaJanuary 6, 2009 4:53 am at 4:53 am #637062
dunno, my plans might be changing as well 🙁 I am hoping to hold it out…January 6, 2009 5:21 am at 5:21 am #637063The Big OneParticipant
“very often it’s the people with a head on their shoulders who date more till they get married.”
au contraire. the smart ones (in the right way) get married quicker, usually. meaning they aren’t miss picky (the cause of the so-called great shidduch crisis.)January 6, 2009 10:49 am at 10:49 am #637064
“very often it’s the people with a head on their shoulders who date more till they get married. again, not always!”
That is such a silly and naive comment. If H-m sends the right one on the first try it is a bracha and if you have a “head on your shoulders” you don’t say no because the only chisaron you can find is that they are the first one. Why would any guy agree to be a girl’s first date if they know the answer is no from the first seconnd. That comment really makes no sense. I wish you a lot of Hatzlocha but keep in mind that you will be held accountable for all those boys that you are wasting their time and hurting in the process of needing to date a lot of boys before you can say yes.
I don’t think one or two years is so bad but I just want to make you aware that living here is a whole different ball game than sem. I’m thinking of 3 people who went home after a relatively short stay and they were all here for sem. Don’t get me wrong, I am here so obviously I made the decision to come. But also your husband will also have to want to come here. NOt all boys want to. Also, I am not saying that you WON’T like it or whatever, but you seem to think that things that you take for granted now you will suddenly not need in a year from now but it doesn’t happen like that.January 6, 2009 3:13 pm at 3:13 pm #637065
very often it’s the people with a head on their shoulders who date more till they get married.
au contraire. the smart ones (in the right way) get married quicker, usually. meaning they aren’t miss picky (the cause of the so-called great shidduch crisis.)
Both statements are absolutely ridiculous.
I married the first guy I dated, but we dated for 1.5 years before getting engaged (and I thought that was a little fast for me). I knew at 20 that I was not ready to get married yet. I wasn’t shidduch dating so this wasn’t an issue.
Sometimes, people start dating well before they are ready and they need a maturation process through the first 10 guys they date. Sometimes, they are just set up with the wrong people. And sometimes, its the first guy they meet that is perfect.
Take this piece of advice: marriage succeeds when both parties want it to succeed AND are willing to put in the work. When choosing the person to marry, you need to make sure that you both have the same goals, have personalities that mesh and that you are attracted to. Do not date expecting the other person to change – take them as they are and decide if you are willing to put in the hard work. Marriage is worth the work with the right person.January 6, 2009 5:40 pm at 5:40 pm #637066
Intellegent, I am not saying that 1 or 2 years is bad, sorry for that, I do know it is hard, I do have friends that live there now, but living a kollel life anyway is hard, I really just have a love for it, I am not saying I am goig to live there for 10 years (which I would love) because then we really wont be having any income, so we will see where life takes us but I would love to start off there as long as possible…January 6, 2009 6:10 pm at 6:10 pm #637067
don’t get me wrong, it might work out beautifully for you to live here, in fact it might be perfect for you and you might love it. By the way the gashmius part is not what’s necessarily so hard it’s usually the fact that you are away from your family etc. I find that part very hard but in a way, I know it’s very good for me so the same thing that could be a chisaron can be a maala as well :). You sound like you have a head on your shoulders and have very good goals for yourself. Just make sure you are being realistic with yourself. that’s all..
About if it is smart to marry the first guy or the 10th (or 20th, 30th), You’re smart if you marry the right guy whether he is #1 or #70. Just hope that he comes sooner rather than later.January 6, 2009 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #637068
thanks intellegent, I do understand it was hard, I wouldnt say I was homesick in sem, but there were times I wished I could just be with my family… I am being ideolistic and hoping if I shoot for the top I will get as close to their as I can. I gues before I move there I wil talk to you or other young couples for some good advice,
I also decieded one way to cut back is not going to eat, b’h my mother makes supper and I should eat it and find another way to hang out with friends…January 6, 2009 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #637069
very impressed, for real.
I know I keep saying this, but you cannot compare sem to living here as a married. (I know someone who’s family moved here a few years ago. she said she wants to marry someone who is open to moving back to america. that is where she wants to bring up her kids etc. she got married and planned to stay here about 4 years and then move to america. her husband does not want to stay here forever. anyway, she got married and her desires are changing. i’m not surprised because when you get married you want to be near family. i am really not the homesick type and am not homesick now either but when you miss your brother’s bar mitzva or even something silly like your sister’s play, and the rest of your family will be there, it’s hard.)January 6, 2009 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #637070believerParticipant
anyone thought of a brqainstorm about wat to do???i was gonna go to isreal. but do u know how scary it is there. maybe not in yerushaalayim. but id rather stay in america. no? so i was thinkin of somethi more local like thr grea wolf lodge. or rocking horse ranch resort… ay ideas?January 6, 2009 6:59 pm at 6:59 pm #637071
btw, none of what i mentioned is reason not to go. just preparing you. anyway, first get engaged. I wonder if I know you. wouldn’t that be funny? how old are you?January 6, 2009 9:17 pm at 9:17 pm #637072surferMember
believer great wolf lodge is awesome. i was there last year.January 6, 2009 9:38 pm at 9:38 pm #637073
believer, what do you like to do? Do you like outdoors/nature? Do you want to fly somewhere in America? How far of a drive is “local” to you?
I can provide suggestions with more information.January 6, 2009 9:55 pm at 9:55 pm #637074qwertyuiopMember
great wolf lodge is good i was there about 2 years ago, and my younger brother went to rocking horse ranch he said it was pretty goodJanuary 6, 2009 10:40 pm at 10:40 pm #637075areivimzehlazehParticipant
I WANNA GO TO E”Y!! any of you going don’t have a partner?? last time i went i booked my flight 2 hrs before takeoff… packed in 15 minutes and off i went. so all i need is the go ahead. Please please someone have rachmanus and invite me along- I’ll even pay for 1/4 of your ticket! hows that for an incentive??January 7, 2009 5:16 am at 5:16 am #637077
intellegent, you are right, like i said right now i am ideolistic, so this is what i feel i want to and would to do, not tha it can work out or that it wont be so so hard… I guess it helps my family is all in the same stage around, so no more plays, bar mitzvas, only a’h weddings which i will attend. so that might make it easier, I really do understand you, I would Love to live there forever… I c it is hard like I said especialy because I wont be working so wont have an income…but all I say is as long as possible, I really wanna so badly its crazy!!
areivimzehlazeh, sorry we have no idea who you are or anything, I am going but I cant invite someone who just a username to join and stay with me… how old r u?January 7, 2009 5:51 pm at 5:51 pm #637078
thank you thinkinghelps, dont know if i’m so wise, i just think things through and try to be logical…whats your opinion on the matter?January 7, 2009 6:02 pm at 6:02 pm #637079
intelligent, thanks for all your advice.
bored@work, i trust and know youll make the right decision when the time comes! just be wise! and you wont know if you like kollel life style till you experience it. but being overly supported by your parents who will send a big check to fulfill all of your desires isnt real kollel! but just keep on believing and at the right time the right one will come (and together you will make thee right decision!!)January 7, 2009 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #637080
OK within two hours:
Hunter Mountain (skiing/snowboarding)
Philadelphia (lots of great American history)
Cape May (I’ve never been there, but you can enjoy the beach with no tznius issues – its just cold)
Newport RI (a little far, but awesome)
You might want to check out virtualtourist.com – they have lots of information.January 7, 2009 9:08 pm at 9:08 pm #637081
what advice? were you just quoting bored?January 7, 2009 9:34 pm at 9:34 pm #637082
bored: ur going in the end?? have fun!
areivimzehlazeh: i would invite u if i were still going…lolJanuary 7, 2009 9:35 pm at 9:35 pm #637083
btw KeepinEntertained, i have a feeling that i know u. were u wearing a yellow sweater yesterday??
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