December 14, 2015 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #616834chaplaintzviMember
Has anyone heard of women not saying hallel on chanukah when they daven all the rest of davening. I thought they did say hallelDecember 14, 2015 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm #1116459–Participant
It’s not obligatory for women. It is discussed by the Sefardic Poskim because they don’t say a Bracha on a non-obligatory Hallel.December 15, 2015 12:50 am at 12:50 am #1116461theprof1Participant
Hallel is a mitzvo she’hazman gromoh and isn’t required of women. Daily davening is required.December 15, 2015 2:02 pm at 2:02 pm #1116462MenoParticipant
Why is daily davening required?December 15, 2015 2:41 pm at 2:41 pm #1116463rabbiofberlinParticipant
theprof1 -and meno- although it is true that “praying” is required even for women, the “seder hatefillah’ that we use is not. A woman can acquit herself of this obligation by just asking or “rachmei shomayim”. Hence, actual “davening” is pretty much like hallel.December 15, 2015 2:56 pm at 2:56 pm #1116464golferParticipant
Meno, women have a chiyuv Tefillah. They don’t have the obligation to daven 3 tefillos b’zmanom like men. They do have an obligation to express shevach (praise), hoda’a (thankfulness) and bakasha (request). How they fulfill this obligation is something that not everybody agrees on. Some may consider a woman taking care of small children patur from all but the most minimal obligation, but she still has to daven daily. It would be wise for you, if you’re asking lma’aseh and not just out of curiousity, to learn the relevant Halachos.December 15, 2015 4:54 pm at 4:54 pm #1116465WolfishMusingsParticipant
Hallel is a mitzvo she’hazman gromoh and isn’t required of women
So what? There are lots of time-bound positive mitzvos that women are not required to do and yet, if they do decide to do them, they recite the bracha.
The WolfDecember 15, 2015 5:03 pm at 5:03 pm #1116466Sam2Participant
Why is Hallel Zman Grama?December 15, 2015 5:07 pm at 5:07 pm #1116467JosephParticipant
Wolf, why are you changing the topic? The OP asked a question and theprof answered it with the quote you cited. There’s nothing to challenge.December 15, 2015 5:32 pm at 5:32 pm #1116468☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
ROB, that’s a machlokes, and not the basic halachah according to Mishnah B’rurah.
Sam, because it’s not said every day (or at night).
Wolf, for Ashkenazim, but not for Sefardim.December 15, 2015 6:06 pm at 6:06 pm #1116469rabbiofberlinParticipant
DaasYochid: Shulchan aruch,orach chaim, siman 106, and -as you said- mishne berurah se’if koton 4. You are right to point out the different views, based on the Rambam and the Ramban. However, I must tell you that this minhag for women to “daven’ regular tefillos every day is new. In Europe-certainly, to my knowledge- women did not “daven” on a regular daily basis. On shabbos, when they went to shul, yes but not on the weekdays.December 15, 2015 6:27 pm at 6:27 pm #1116470Matan1Participant
Why would anyone not want to sing praise to Hashem on Chanukkah?December 15, 2015 7:13 pm at 7:13 pm #1116471Sam2Participant
DY: Not being every day doesn’t define Zman Grama. The night thing is interesting, but I’m not sure why Hallel has to Davka be during the day.
If you hold like the Rishonim that Hallel is D’oraisa, then it really shouldn’t be Zman Grama.December 15, 2015 7:25 pm at 7:25 pm #1116472☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
The Gemara uses both definitions for tefillin.December 15, 2015 7:40 pm at 7:40 pm #1116473screwdriverdelightParticipant
Sam2, who holds it’s MiD’oraisa? There are rishonim who say it’s MiDivrei Kabbalah, but who says MiD’oraisa?
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