October 30, 2009 2:04 am at 2:04 am #665283October 30, 2009 2:06 am at 2:06 am #665284
Chops: A lav is a “lo taaseh” – a mitzvah not to do something.October 30, 2009 2:07 am at 2:07 am #665285
*meant collarOctober 30, 2009 2:18 am at 2:18 am #665286coalMember
shaatra means that a housewife that does everything, and everything well doneOctober 30, 2009 2:19 am at 2:19 am #665287
Listen, maybe we are getting cinical. sorry.Tnius is the most beautiful mitzva for a woman. It makes us regal. It changes us from being ordinary street people to a person with class. the princess of spain was once criticized for wearing an “unprincess” appropriate dress. It had one sleeve only and looked provacative. Royalty dresses with class, at least they are supposed to.
EDITEDOctober 30, 2009 2:24 am at 2:24 am #665288questionMember
chops: how about reading Oz Vehadar Levusha by Rav Falk shlita and realizing that yes, halacha does concern itself with centimeters and millimeters. and this is HALACHA not chumros…l
EDITEDOctober 30, 2009 2:41 am at 2:41 am #665289
Thanks question, I just might pick that book up.October 30, 2009 2:50 am at 2:50 am #665290
Chops: r u seriously asking if I know what shaatra means?? Duh I do!! I don’t get the part if I make kibbeh wearing 2 shirts was it supposed to be some funny joke? Cuz I don’t get itOctober 30, 2009 3:20 am at 3:20 am #665296
Just to let you know re: “Oz Vehadar Levusha” by Rav Falk, it is a very comprehensive book about the halachos and hashkofos of tznius, but for clarification of anything you read in ANY book, you should ask your own LOR (Local Orthodox Rabbi)!October 30, 2009 2:26 pm at 2:26 pm #665297
thinking jew: by the way a great idea for open necks is a bobby pin! you make a seam at each side and stick in a bobbby pin to hold it, I’m not sure how clear that is but if you get what i mean
Thanks for the idea, thinking jew. I think I get what you are saying, but won’t the bobby pins move out of place allowing the seam to open?
shaatra: I think it EVERY women should wear a shell/under shirt under ANY shirt.
I don’t think it’s necessary to wear a shell under EVERY shirt, but some shirts or blouses do call for this – especially white shirts, due to the nature of the color and often the thickness of the material, v’hameivn yavin.
plonisalmonis: Since safety pins are annoying, my new “shtick” now is a necklace – (only works for a collared shirt) underneath the collar – closes off the top of the shirt and doesn’t look bad!!
I have tried this and it can work, but sometimes the necklace doesn’t always keep everything in place. I prefer the sew-on snaps or safety pins to make sure all is secure.
coal: shaatra means that a housewife that does everything, and everything well done
Thanks for the explanation for all of us j-dubs! ;DOctober 30, 2009 3:12 pm at 3:12 pm #665298
J-dubs! Hahaha!October 30, 2009 3:28 pm at 3:28 pm #665299
Hey, Shaatra, who says discussing tznius can’t be fun, too!?! 🙂October 30, 2009 3:42 pm at 3:42 pm #665300
NY Mom: yeah legit!!October 30, 2009 5:22 pm at 5:22 pm #665301neatfreakMember
For anyone who is interested i found a yahoo group that is called Tznius. Only women are approved. To request a membership email [email protected]. this way you dont have to worry about men reading and they have woman only modsOctober 30, 2009 7:12 pm at 7:12 pm #665302
I just looked into this group. According to the description, it’s geared towards Orthodox women, it was started 7 years ago, it has 349 members, and it is not moderated. No activity for the past 7 days.
How does it work? Group emails?October 30, 2009 7:18 pm at 7:18 pm #665303October 31, 2009 11:53 pm at 11:53 pm #665304
Chops: I agree. You get used to it but still doesn’t mean its easy, you just have to I guess deal with it! Some things are just not a question you just do it because yoy HAVE toNovember 1, 2009 12:19 am at 12:19 am #665305
I happen to like the YWN in general, and the CR is a wonderful forum for frum people to voice their opinions on matters ranging from the trivial to those of great important.
My purpose in starting this thread was to encourage myself and others in the area of tznius. If some people are not comfortable in expressing themselves in this forum because they feel it is too open, then I want to help them access a forum in which they will feel comfortable.
For frum, married women I just heard of a website called Imamother.com. (Get it? Ima = mother or I’m a mother. Cute.) They have threads on all topics relating to being a frum mother and you can begin threads, just as you can in the CR. You have to be a member and it is only for frum women, moderated by frum women.
If everyone feels more comfortable expressing themselves in these other forums, then I myself will ask for this thread to be closed – especially considering what Mod 80 has written above. I never wanted to be nichshol others. However, if others would still like for this thread to continue, then they should let their opinions be known.November 1, 2009 3:53 am at 3:53 am #665307mazcaMember
A frum woman has to be beautiful in the way she dresses,she always has to be clean,her sheitol has to be well combed, her hands have to be well trimmed and cleaned , her blouses and necks have to be properly cover, she should not go out in the street without stockings, the skirts should be long enough, and a frum woman every morning before she goes in the street and in her house she has to know that she is representing a holy nation , not only do it as a habit, she has to know she is doing a mitzvah and everyday she has to know this. When she is in the street or her house she has to be careful with her mouth, never talk bad words and always act properly, do not speak lashon hara and be tzeniut with everything she has and does. Think everyday, I do this because the Torah commanded me to do it. And everyday when she gets up and gets dress and has the right Kavanah, she gets the right reward. The intention is the most important thing in keeping tzeniut. I know people that cover their head with a sheitol because they want to look better. ex. movie stars that wear wigs; Well their intention is not to keep a mitzva so they do not get a miztva so tomorrow morning when you get up. Think and say it loud. I keep tzeniut because it is a mitzva. The reward is greater.November 1, 2009 5:00 am at 5:00 am #665308AnonymousInactive
Does everyone agree for this forum to be closed?November 1, 2009 12:40 pm at 12:40 pm #665310SJSinNYCMember
I have no objection.
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