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Has anybody considered that one of the reasons schools “stagger” the schedules for different age kids is to allow for repeat trips by their school buses? The logistics are especially tight on fridays.
I know this is not a main point but in this thread it is a recurring side point – I personally am tired of sending my kids to school for longer hours and more school days just because someone else don’t want to pay a baby sitter. I LIKE having my kids home. My kids NEED a break from school and I consider the time off to be crucial to developing a relationship and passing down the families values. Regardless how I fund that, someone’s need to have them in school should not override my need to have them home. The school year should not be set up to give less childcare days to working parents (which I am). It is already too long (both the days and the year) and should be set up to serve the best interest of the kids and their teachers.
And btw, I did open up my own school (a pre-school)and it was great but when the teachers insisted I pay their childcare in addition to their higher salaries I couldn’t make the budget work.
And as a personal aside, I am very thankful for that extra isru chag day off so I don’t have to stay up til 4 a.m. getting the laundry done and the learning program sheets filled out while I am cleaning up from ‘yuntiff’.
Gevalt – there is a yeshiva in MY area that has an 11;15 dismissal on fridays in the winter. I guess Mommy will not be able to take that morning job. I hope the yeshiva administrator will understand when it comes to tuition.
dass yachid –REBBE PLONI IS BUSY WATCHING HIS OWN KIDS ON HIS OFF DAYS AND GETS NO HOUSE WORK DONE.
Poor guy. Should the entire school schedule be based on him?
How about the kids, who are exhausted after Yom Tov and need the day off?
How about rebbeim whose wives are teachers and also have the day off?
How about rebbeim who have alternate child care options, such as the kids’ grandparent, teenage siblings, or neighbors?
How about the working parents such as Syag who have their priorities straight?
And btw, I did open up my own school (a pre-school)and it was great but when the teachers insisted I pay their childcare in addition to their higher salaries I couldn’t make the budget work.
And you think that the schools that ARE open are any different?
apy: interesting. I have tried to find out the amount of days required and couldnt find it. Thanks!
gaw: I appreciate your advice. Unfortunately it wont be able to work out with my family for various reasons. But opening a school, i dont know if i can do that but i am thinking of opening a babysitting service (in my home) for a minimal “per hour” charge and more accommodating hours than most babysitters in my area.
avhaben: I dont know how law clerks, law professors and dental assistants are paid, but my point was that if i go to the dentist, i am only paying for the service provided, not a monthly fee. I apologize if i wasnt clear.
Public service announcement:
The term “law clerk” usually refers to a job a student will get while in school. It also commonly refers to a job doing research for a judge.
I don’t know what y’all think it means.
gaw: I appreciate your advice. Unfortunately it wont be able to work out with my family for various reasons. But opening a school, i dont know if i can do that but i am thinking of opening a babysitting service (in my home) for a minimal “per hour” charge and more accommodating hours than most babysitters in my area.
Your community will thank you (and you will see how difficult it is). The advantage of babysitting over an actual school is that there are no scholarships!
Of course, to accomodate working parents, your hours will have to be from about 7:30 – 6:00 (I am aware of ONE legal frum day care service in NY that has such hours, but none other), but I’m sure that you are up to the task.
GAW – no. I was just mentioning it in answer to those/he who asked. It has made me very sensitive to the needs on ‘both sides of the fence’ and every day on the first day of school I used to bring lunch to the administrative office staff in appreciation of the work put in from their end just to get the doors open. Whether or not I agree with their process or not is a seperate issue from appreciating their work.
Sorry for the tangent –
Syag: That is the best way to look at it, from both sides.
I feel that schools should have more days (at least for some), especially in the beginning of the year, and perhaps more off days in the middle (for others). But that depends on the parent body as well. Its silly to open Isru Chag when 30% of the students are in Israel or Florida, or were up until 3:00 the previous night arriving home from the Yom Tov hotel.
How about the kids, who are exhausted after Yom Tov and need the day off?
well that dosent explain sept 1-sept 15 and jun 15=jun 31
NYC public schools do not begin on the first day of September and they end before the end of June.
who’s off Sept 1 – 15th ? And we never end before June 21 or later.
Marbe: If you want more days, you can start paying more tuition to increase the teacher’s salaries.
Besides, Yeshivas start earlier than 9/15 and end later than 6/15 as it is.
well that dosent explain sept 1-sept 15 and jun 15=jun 31
Although your dates are off, you are correct that the summer break is too long – far too long, in my opinion. The Lakewood model of an eleven month school year (for boys) is beginning to spread, though. In those yeshivas that have limudim in July, the rebbeim do get an extra months’ pay (tuition is assessed for eleven months).
Marbe: If you want more days, you can start paying more tuition to increase the teacher’s salaries.
The rebbeim and moros are paid per month, so salaries would not be increased if a few days were added.
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