September 14, 2011 3:42 pm at 3:42 pm #599379shmoelMember
Will Milchomos Gog U’Mogog be World War III?September 14, 2011 3:46 pm at 3:46 pm #809953
Maybe. It could be WWIV if we don’t deserve it. It could also be the Arab spring if we do.September 14, 2011 3:48 pm at 3:48 pm #809954mewhoParticipant
ww3 will be if someone doesnt make the bicyclists follow rules like all other moving vehicles on wheelsSeptember 15, 2011 1:48 pm at 1:48 pm #809955Derech HaMelechMember
I’ve heard that the Chofetz Chaim said this about the World WarsSeptember 15, 2011 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #809956
He couldn’t have said it about both because he passed away before WWII.September 15, 2011 4:46 pm at 4:46 pm #809957Derech HaMelechMember
What i heard was that after WW I he said that this was the first of three battles, that there would be another one in about a few years and then a last one. Don’t quote me on those exact words.
Its possible that I might have seen this inside somewhere too, but I have a terrible memory.September 15, 2011 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm #809958mommamia22Participant
Are there any interpretations of who gog and Magog will be?September 15, 2011 9:42 pm at 9:42 pm #809959TumsMember
When we were younger we thought it would be a nuclear war (c”v) between the U.S. and the Soviet Union.September 15, 2011 9:45 pm at 9:45 pm #809960deiyezoogerMember
Magog is the son of Yefes ben Noach, Happens to be the uncle of Ashkenaz (Germany).September 16, 2011 12:23 am at 12:23 am #809961mommamia22Participant
So, who is gog??September 16, 2011 12:38 am at 12:38 am #809962metrodriverMember
deiyezooger; …And Ashkenaz, according to the Gemarah in Maseceth Yoma (10a) states that it (Ashkenaz) is “Germania Shel Edom”. Rashi elaborates further, that there is Inner and Outer Saxonia.September 16, 2011 1:54 am at 1:54 am #809963deiyezoogerMember
“deiyezooger; …And Ashkenaz, according to the Gemarah in Maseceth Yoma (10a) states that it (Ashkenaz) is “Germania Shel Edom”. Rashi elaborates further, that there is Inner and Outer Saxonia. “
The gemarah in megilah also mantions “Gemarmaya shel Adom” and the Sifsi Chachamim says there that it refares to Germeny.September 16, 2011 3:18 am at 3:18 am #809964mddMember
Gog is the leader of Magog. A whole coalition of nations (mostly from the North) is going to come fight against the Jews of Eretz Yisroel.It is in the Nevi’im.September 16, 2011 3:25 am at 3:25 am #809965
It is actually very clear from history and the details in that Gemara that the Gemara in Megillah (6b at the very bottom if I am not mistaken) is referring to the future Holy Roman Empire.September 16, 2011 3:46 am at 3:46 am #809966TumsMember
The Holy Roman Empire was essentially Germany.September 16, 2011 4:29 am at 4:29 am #809967bezalelParticipantSeptember 16, 2011 5:37 am at 5:37 am #809968
Tums: The Holy Roman Empire became most of what is now Germany. The Gemara there also clearly predicts what would happen when the Empire united.September 16, 2011 10:44 am at 10:44 am #809969mddMember
Bezalel, it does not fit at all.September 16, 2011 2:55 pm at 2:55 pm #809970zahavasdadParticipant
Holy Roman Empire Is Basically Germany , Austria and Prussia. Most of Prussia is NOT in Germany anymore.
There was a competition who would Germany re-unite under Austria or Prussia and Prussia was the winner and Austria was left out.
Germany was greatly shruken after WWI and WWII and much of prussia became part of Poland and Russia (Many Cities were known by German name now have a different name like Danzig which is now Gdansk Poland ) and Koningsborg which is now Kalingrad Russia
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