January 9, 2021 7:57 pm at 7:57 pm #1936849
Would you vote for Donald Trump again? And if so, why or why not. And discuss the invasion of the US Capitol in reaching your discision.January 9, 2021 8:38 pm at 8:38 pm #1936855Reb EliezerParticipant
He is dangerous liks a child who does not look and consequence of his actions.January 9, 2021 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm #1936856smerelParticipant
I don’t know if I would vote for him but I don’t regret voting for him.
I thought he was a jerk then and think he is a jerk now.
I thought that if elected on balance his policies and appointees would be better than Biden’s and still think that way now.
I thought he would act like a jerk if he lost and he did.
I blame the liberals for the capital invasion. The people involved saw footage all summer long of people rioting and invading government buildings.(and worse) There was no strong condemnation of that behavior. There were no serious punishments given out to those involved. They naively thought they would be looked at the same way.
They didn’t realize that (1)the capital isn’t just any government building(at least of this writing that is what it became when the liberals were storming the senate floor and disrupting the Kavanagh confirmation hearing no one expressed any outrage ) and (2) they was doing it for the wrong political cause and beliefs to expect the tolerance and understanding given to the others engaged in similar behavior.
To be clear I don’t see the capital invasion as being a big deal. I would lot rather see BLM ransack the capital than a random business district. No one’s life got destroyed in the capital by those who invaded the capital. Plenty of peoples lives got destroyed by BLM riotsJanuary 9, 2021 9:12 pm at 9:12 pm #1936879
I would vote for him twice, next time. Once legitimately, and once to counteract all the dead Democrats who fraudulently vote from the grave.January 9, 2021 9:13 pm at 9:13 pm #1936880smerelParticipant
To correct the above To be clear I don’t see the capital invasion as being a big deal in regard to other forms of rioting like ransacking a downtown business and killing people in the process. It certainly is a big deal.January 9, 2021 11:13 pm at 11:13 pm #1936902dovrosenbaumParticipant
I would. Anything to prevent the onslaught of feminism, BLM, critical race theory, and the crackdown on the 1st and 2nd amendments which is now taking down the country. My only regret is that there wasn’t a well-organized revolution. 1776 was a moment for our freedom; we need another 1776 moment, with people who love this country willing to do what it takes. In a 1787 letter to William Stephens Smith, the son-in-law of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson used the phrase “tree of liberty”: “The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independant 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.”January 9, 2021 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm #1936923torahvaluesoverpartyParticipant
I probably would not vote for him I’m the primaries, I would like to see DeSantis2024, and I held this opinion before the storm on the capitol. As for the presidential election, there’s not much he can do that would lose my vote for him, he would have to become an outright racist, or liberal or something like that….so yeah, if he wins the primaries he’s got my vote…. anything, absolutely anything is better than corrupt politicians occupying positions of power…January 9, 2021 11:57 pm at 11:57 pm #1936927☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
How can anyone answer this without being told who he’d be running against?January 10, 2021 12:01 am at 12:01 am #1936890CTLAWYERParticipant
You are an ignorant fool and an embarrassment to anyone with a semblance of intelligence
“once to counteract all the dead Democrats who fraudulently vote from the grave”
Dead people cannot vote! Fraudulently or otherwise. A LIVE person who casts a vote in the name of a dead elector is committing fraud.
You have stated here publicly that you would commit election fraud, a felony punishable by fine and imprisonment, You are a lousy role model for our Jewish youth.January 10, 2021 12:34 am at 12:34 am #1936939
CTL, I’m glad to have gotten under your skin. Gut voch!January 10, 2021 12:57 am at 12:57 am #1936945
DY, excellent point. Imagine a 21st century Joe Stalin was the Democrat candidate. Who wouldn’t vote for The Donald?January 10, 2021 10:34 am at 10:34 am #1937027
As long as ujm brought it up, I will remind everyone of a statement attributed to Stalin. He said he supports democracy and elections, as long as he counts the votes.
Pop quiz: Who does that sound like?January 10, 2021 11:12 am at 11:12 am #1937084
Pop quiz answer: The Democrats, ever since Daley and Johnson.January 10, 2021 4:00 pm at 4:00 pm #1937206johnkletsParticipant
I would have voted for Trump again, though i would prefer to vote for someone whith the deeds of Trump but with a better mouth and personality.
Smerel said it very goodJanuary 10, 2021 4:07 pm at 4:07 pm #1937227
ujm: Your pop-quiz answer raises a fair point. Lots of American politicians, political parties and political machines have tried, sometimes successfully, to sabotage a fair vote count. I don’t know about Lyndon Johnson, but certainly the Richard Daley machine was notorious for fudging the votes. So, what do you think we should do about it? Vote for a vote-cheater a second time, or lock her/him up?January 10, 2021 5:57 pm at 5:57 pm #1937249
huju: Which Democrat vote cheater has gotten locked up since after Tammany Hall? The calls for punishment always comes after others allegedly do what Democrats have long gotten away with. It’s the same with gerrymandering; it was all well and good for that hundred years Democrats mastered it, but became undemocratic once others bested Democrats at their own game.
The difference here being that the Republicans didn’t even commit any electoral fraud, that the Democrats — as you conceded regarding Daley and others — are clearly guilty. It is true they vastly overstated the extent of the occurrence of fraud in the most recent election, but that is understandable given for how long Democrats have gotten away with it. And still fight against voter fraud prevention, such as voter ID requirements.
As far as your question as to what we should do about it, I think the answer is straightforward. Create independent bodies not answerable to elected officials in charge of running and counting the vote. And most importantly create requirements insuring anyone registering to vote and anyone voting has their eligibility and identification verified prior to registration or voting. And verify the electoral registers every few years.
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