February 25, 2010 5:13 pm at 5:13 pm #591287ihearMember
I never understood why people (or parent)would buy their children or themselves for that matter a article of clothing with a nice big symbol on it. what r they trying to show every1? They or the kids go around making people jealous and for what ? So they can look better in the eyes of shallow people ? Why not buy the same thing w/o a symbol?February 25, 2010 5:47 pm at 5:47 pm #691994volvieMember
ihear – You are absolutely correct.February 25, 2010 6:11 pm at 6:11 pm #691995dunnoMember
usually the more expensive companies have better quality clothing but you are correct – there’s no need to advertise itFebruary 25, 2010 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm #691996jewishsoulMember
People who care about those symbols shouldn’t have to worry about better quality clothing since they’re usually the type that’s constantly keeping up with the latest fashions, in which case they’re replacing their wardrobe before the clothes have a chance to get worn out…
Personally, when I see a really fashionably dressed person, the message I get from them is “I am stupid enough not to have a mind of my own and need to have someone in Paris dictate to me what to wear every season.”February 25, 2010 9:34 pm at 9:34 pm #691999bombmaniacParticipant
well, i dont think people buy clothing just to show off the status symbol…the status symbol is incidental…as for the companies paying you…they are in a manner of speaking…the shirt WAS only $150…no? lolFebruary 25, 2010 9:58 pm at 9:58 pm #692000BodekParticipant
I once heard someone explain the issue of wearing brand name labels as being an issue of Gaavah. The Label gives the wearer a certain (misplaced) sense of status and taste and budget.
I have some friends who will only buy brand names that do not have the label on the outside – some go so far as to acctually remove the label.February 25, 2010 10:07 pm at 10:07 pm #692001bombmaniacParticipant
i know people like that too, and yes a status symbol does give some sort of inflated feeling…but i guess sometimes thats unavoidableFebruary 25, 2010 11:01 pm at 11:01 pm #692002hereorthereMember
Sometimes the big label really is the highest quality, and I am not going to necessarily go out of my way to tear off the label.
But I am just as happy wearing whatever is the best quailty of what I need and like even when if it has no label at all.
I certainly have no desire to advertise any specific brand.
In fact if it seems too bold I actually feel I am calling too much attention to myself and might sometimes avoid the big label for that reason, especially if I can find comparable quality in something less showy.February 25, 2010 11:15 pm at 11:15 pm #692003word of the wiseMember
what is wrong if a guy can afford something and pay for higher quality nobody tells you that the shoes you wear u can get cheeper ones in cheeper store and u can tell if someone wear diff levels of clothes the question is more why do other people feel the need to impress?February 26, 2010 12:23 am at 12:23 am #692004HIEParticipant
ihear- I’ve got to say, you are finally right on something. i’m maskim 100%!!!February 26, 2010 4:16 am at 4:16 am #692005ronrsrMember
I have a few garments and an umbrella that have logos on them. I don’t usually wear corporate logos, but if they give me the garment for free, I will consider it.April 19, 2010 2:18 am at 2:18 am #692007
Why do people feel they need a silk tie? Does it feel different? The tie is on top of your shirt!
Also, a Choson tie. You spend a fortune on the wedding. From L’Chaim to Vort to Afruf/Shabbos Kallah, Chassunah, Sheva Brochos, Shabbos Sheva Brochos…
The Choson is going to wear that tie ONCE IN HIS LIFE! By the Chuppah, it is covered by his coat, kittel and jacket. No one can tell that it is a silk tie. Why not get a cheap(er) tie?April 19, 2010 4:29 am at 4:29 am #692008smartcookieMember
A chosson wears a nice tie at his wedding for his wife, not for his friends. Same reason the kallah wears a beautiful white gown, jewelry and makeup. It’s done for the spouse to see.April 19, 2010 8:58 pm at 8:58 pm #692009
I agree 100% that the Choson should wear a nice suit, sparkling white kittel, white on white shirt etc. The Kallah as well should wear a beautiful white flowing gown (we can talk about that by the Wedding Gowns thread [which I didn’t go to]), pretty jewelry, makeup etc. etc. etc.
But the tie? No one, not even the Kallah, will see the tie. Get a very nice white tie that you can buy for $2-$10 dollars.
smartcookie, it can be a “nice” tie, but doesn’t have to be a very “expensive” tie. Thanks!April 19, 2010 11:33 pm at 11:33 pm #692010notrichenoughMember
Check “Luach.com”. I believe I saw there a gemach for Choson’s ties. If a Kallah can have a gown from a gemach, why Choson can’t get a tie?April 20, 2010 12:13 am at 12:13 am #692011
notrichenough, if you were more rich you wouldn’t need any gemachs!!!
Back on topic, I agree. My brother (a choson) was talking to his Kallah about making a tie gemach. I doubt it will happen, but at least they were talking! Just kidding!!!April 20, 2010 1:23 am at 1:23 am #692014
Chosson Tie Gemach Why spend money on a tie your only going to wear once? Now, you can borrow a tie from the Chosson Tie Gemach and no charge. You can also donate your Chosson Tie to this Gemach Call Motti @ (732) 364-3757 (posted 7/31)April 20, 2010 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm #692015PosterMember
I went to an outlet mall to shop for my son for the summer. I bought well priced clothing, some had symbols. I didnt buy for the symbol, in fact i got really cute stuff at great prices at Carter’s. Their stuff also have symbols (a little dog )and I wouldnt say its the “coolest” store around, in fact its probably the cheapest children’s clothing store, in the same way i got a great deal at Tommy Hilfiger and that also has a symbol…I dont care for the symbol, if it’s on the outfit what can I do?April 20, 2010 5:08 pm at 5:08 pm #692016bptParticipant
90% of the things me and my family wear do not have a name or logo showing. But in all fairness to my kids, if I send them to a yeshiva / camp where the other kids (and sometimes staff) wear brand names, I feel its only right to buy them at least a few items with the popular names. OK, maybe Ferregamo and Hermes is a bit over the top, but Gap and Tommy is within thier rights to expect a piece or two. And if you shop smart, you can often get the brand names for $5-10 more than the no-names, and they do fit / wear better. Besides, my kids self-esteem is worth the extra $5.April 21, 2010 1:37 am at 1:37 am #692017notrichenoughMember
“notrichenough, if you were more rich you wouldn’t need any gemachs!!!”
da, I don’t use gemachs, I’m a fashion designer.
And yes, I’m not rich enough to pay for yeshivah for 8 grandchildren, I wish I can afford it. It will be very big help for my son-in-law.April 21, 2010 2:04 am at 2:04 am #692018
notrichenough, I don’t usually try reading the usernames. My eyes just scan them. Sometimes, after seeing a username even many times, I actually read it.
I happened to “see” your username while we were talking about gemachs. I was just kidding! Sorry if I said something wrong.April 23, 2010 1:36 am at 1:36 am #692019vitameatavegaminMember
i think the pressure is more in girls clothing than with boys…but with the right chinuch, coming primarily from parents, kids can grow up comfortable in whatever they wear. My family is not big into labels-and i’m one of five girls who all go to a school that does have many students there that dress to a certain standard. however, if the family talks about it not being so important, and being comfortable in what you wear, then kol tov—the kids will be none the worse!
thats my opinion, at least 😀August 3, 2010 8:47 pm at 8:47 pm #692020oyveykidsthesedaysMember
vitameatavegamin dont drink too much 😉August 4, 2010 11:56 pm at 11:56 pm #692021Sister BearMember
I was once discussing this with a bunch of friends and the situation came up. If you had the exact same sweatshirt, same quality and all but one had a logo and one didn’t. The one with the logo was $100 and the one without was $10 which would you buy?
Everyone said the $10 one without blinking an eye. One ‘friend’ said if my mother’s paying the $100 one and if I’m paying I would get neither.
if you buy it for the piece of clothing thats one thing but if you buy it for the logo, then you probably suffer from ‘keeping up with the Joneses (or Cohen’s)’ 😉August 5, 2010 1:07 pm at 1:07 pm #692023gavra_at_workParticipant
I went to an outlet mall to shop for my son for the summer. I bought well priced clothing, some had symbols. I didnt buy for the symbol, in fact i got really cute stuff at great prices at Carter’s. Their stuff also have symbols (a little dog )and I wouldnt say its the “coolest” store around, in fact its probably the cheapest children’s clothing store, in the same way i got a great deal at Tommy Hilfiger and that also has a symbol…I dont care for the symbol, if it’s on the outfit what can I do?
Agreed. You can do much better in outlets then in “regular stores”, and get cheaper clothing for less then you would for a no-name.
I guess that is why I don’t see this to be an issue. I just assume when I see a brand name that it was bought in an outlet or a discount store (such as TJMAXX), where it is much cheaper then buying the no-name brand.
Exception being Bugaboo strollers.August 5, 2010 1:47 pm at 1:47 pm #692024Josh31Participant
Some boys and men have a little label on the trousers for the shul Gabbai to see so he can give them the second Aliyah.
This way the Gabbai does not have to shout out repeatedly, “Are the any Levi-im here?”August 5, 2010 3:53 pm at 3:53 pm #692025noitallmrParticipant
Josh31- LOL LOL LOL very very good!!!
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