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  • #601352
    tahini
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    I have an 18 year old in Bat Vegan looking to get a new hat,

    told he needs a borsalino, is that so?!

    What is the average price and what is the norm for 18year old kids and their black hats ( his first )

    any suggestions

    Please help!

    #838928
    Toi
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    if hes 18 and he thinks he needs a bors, he probably needs it. itll run you a pretty penny. in the US theyre about 180-230, but here theyll run you around a thousand shek. sorry

    #838929
    gavra_at_work
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    tahini:

    Do you want to buy him the hat?

    If yes, buy it.

    If no, tell him he is more than welcome to buy himself the hat.

    #838930
    TheGoq
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    If he is a vegan make sure there are no feathers in the hat.

    #838931
    commonsense
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    why dafka a bors? There are many nice cheaper hats available.

    #838932
    moi aussi
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    #838933
    real-brisker
    Member

    Dont buy something thats not nice.

    #838934
    oomis
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    IMO no one should buy a Borsalino, davka because of its price. There are plenty of black hats around. It is no different from condemning some women for only wanting to wear designer clothing (and don’t say it is different, because it is part of the “levush” as there is absolutely no justification for levush that includes such an outrageously priced head covering, as being de regeur, when there are way less expensive hats that make a yeshivah bochur look equally yeshivish).

    #838935
    AinOhdMilvado
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    You can get a very decent hat that is not a Borsalino for at least a third cheaper.

    It is a combination of the maturity of the kid, the wealth of the parent, and what message you want to teach your son that will determine what to buy.

    #838936
    yitayningwut
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    LOL Goq, what about the hat itself?

    #838937
    Toi
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    common- its readily noticeable to any yeshivaman if its not a bors, and truthfully their hats are a cut above the rest.

    #838938
    Bowwow
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    Agree to the Borsallino if he agrees to get a grey one!

    #838939
    real-brisker
    Member

    oomis – Borsalino is mot about the name. Its about the quality thats uncompareable.

    #838940
    ED IT OR
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    a borsalino will work out far cheaper in the long run, (it lasts longer and being the hat he wanted he will look after it far more carefully!)

    also if at 18 it is his first hat you should definitely let him choose it

    #838941
    Rav Tuv
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    I prefer a blue one with a red “C” on the front.

    #838942
    ny100k
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    He feels he needs a Borsalino, because that is what his friends make him feel. In reality, I am sure many of his friends don’t have a Borsalino. If making him fit in is important, then it makes sense to splurge on the Borsalino. The extra 100$ will go a long way to boost his confidence.

    #838943
    tahini
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    gavra_at_work,The Goq, commonsense, moi aussi,oomis1105,yitayningwut,

    AinOhdMilvado,Toi,Bowwow,real-brisker,crazybrit, musser zoger

    ny100k

    Thank you all so much for your advice and kind observations, it is all new to me!

    Out of all my kids this is the first to ask for a hat, I have older boys who are MO, various girls who are married to different types of boys, from yeshivish to mizrachi dati, and my little one who is keen and proud to be what here in the uk we call a ” black hat”. As long as he learns and works hard I feel he deserves a hat!

    Amazed at the high price, but that is obviously my ignorance. I will try my negotiating skills with my son and discuss maybe sharing the cost if it is to be a borsalino, otherwise perhaps he can compromise on a nice smart hat from a different place.

    Appreciate your help!

    #838944

    I actually imagined the title of the thread to mean it was an advert for raising the funds for the new hat! Do you take Paypal?

    #838945
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    It is no different from condemning some women for only wanting to wear designer clothing

    Do you condemn women who spend $100 more on a better quality, or even a better looking outfit than the cheapest one available?

    #838946
    TheGoq
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    Tahini please dont anything i wrote seriously i was joking around.

    #838947
    Sam2
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    I have heard that the reason Borsalinos are so expensive is because part of their proceeds go to missionary work. Can anyone deny or confirm this?

    #838948
    popa_bar_abba
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    I have heard that the reason Borsalinos are so expensive is because part of their proceeds go to missionary work. Can anyone deny or confirm this?

    I heard that the reason Coca Cola is so expensive, is because they give part of their proceeds to Hamas. Can anyone deny or confirm this?

    #838949
    tahini
    Member

    Goq and Always : thank you! Certainly appreciate the humour.

    Daas yochid, you are right in noting the value of good quality and crafstmanship, I am working on my negotiating skills right now.

    #838950
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Sam2,

    I don’t know if that’s true or not, but normally, prices are determined by market forces. They’ll charge as much as they can get, no matter where the profits go.

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