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    Just Another Yid
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    When I first went to Yeshiva and was wondering which one to go to, and people told me that they are all the same in learning really, except for some. I heard from somewhere that Before the war every yeshive (baronovitch, Mir, Chachmei Lublin, Radin, etc) all had different ‘styles’ of learning. Is this true? what is a style of learning, if it is all the same?

    #1775326

    Reb Eliezer
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    There are two kinds of learning styles. bekios and pilpul. It is not a good idea to “kvetch on a blat’, but ‘fuhren’ or traveling is not good either. Look at the Sefer תנו כבוד לתורה from RAV Shimon Furst z’l and Rav Noach Isaac Oelbaum Shlita on his hakdomas complaining that halacha considerations in learning are being side stepped. Look at the Sefer חדשים גם ישנים from Rav Yonasan Steif ztz’l where he balances both. The Rif, Rosh and Rambam should be emphasized in learning because they are the עמודי הוראה. The Mechaber follows their majority in psak.

    #1775508

    rational
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    No criticism intended. I am amused that one can write a long paragraph on learning styles today without using the word “Brisk”. Go figure.

    #1775555

    Reb Eliezer
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    It is important that a Brisker Chakira should make a difference in halacha not just the Rambam whom we don’t always follow. An example is the meaning of שומע כעונה. If it means that ir makes you speak, the problem is , how can you be yotze megilla when you don’t have one personally? We must say that your speaking from the mouth of the baal koreh who has a megilla, so you don’t need one yourself. They say that the kohen can be motzei another kohen in duchenen but he must also raise his hands. Raising the hands is a physical part of the mitzva whereas holding a kos is not. So you don’t need a kos to be yotze kiddush from someone else.

    #1775567

    Reb Eliezer
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    If there is no difference in halacha, some fun can be made. What sweetens the tea, sugar or mixing? The answer is mixing and sugar is required to know how long to mix.

    #1790435

    The Alter
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    Chofetz Chiam has a unique learning style that comes from r’ naftoli trop the rosh of radin yeshiva.

    #1791283

    Benephraim
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    In Mir, Reb Chaim was Rosh Yeshiva, not Reb Lazer Yudil. That was the result of the Mashgiach, Reb Yerucham zl. Reb Elya Chazan was the best bachur. Very few married. Will write about Kamenitz, Kletzk , and Branovich next week. Bln.

    #1791281

    Just Another Yid
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    I was really trying to figure out how the yeshivos’s styles were different from each other, but whatever…
    for example: why is chofetz chaim’s style unique?

    #1791289

    Benephraim
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    The CC did not give shiur in Radin. He hired Reb Naftoli. The CC as a child had seen an old Yid in Vilna who had seen the Gaon. Similarly, I met a Jew in the Bronx who left Poland in 1906 and was zoche to see the Avnei Nezer.

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