December 27, 2010 5:51 am at 5:51 am #593776
what r the top 5 most yeshivish yeshivas in americaDecember 28, 2010 3:31 am at 3:31 am #722333bezalelParticipant
What does that mean?
Yeshiva Toras Chaim: Elev 5322 ftDecember 28, 2010 4:25 am at 4:25 am #722334
What do you mean by yeshivish? Greasy, Farfrumet, Lomdush, Serious Learners?December 28, 2010 5:29 am at 5:29 am #722335
yeshivisha guys , guys who talk yeshivish u know what i mean , and u mean denver?December 28, 2010 8:31 am at 8:31 am #722336
Hmmm…how are you determining this?
1. number of students
2. elevation (as others have said, and I think Denver wins…)
3. How Yeshivish? Now this would be almost impossible to determine….
*Amount covered by the school’s curriculum? But how do you know if they really comprehend the material and know it?
*lack of school rules (because the students know better so we don’t have to tell them not to…)
The above two really don’t mean anything because what do the students do outside school grounds?
*”talk yeshivish” ie- mean that “what are the top 5 schools with the poorest English vocabulary and comprehension?
Please expand and clarify your question… possibly elucidating the reason for the post could assist the general readers. No one knows “what you mean” except you. Oh, and please write in COMPLETE SENTENCES! Then again, not if you mean the last “*”…December 28, 2010 9:08 am at 9:08 am #722337bombmaniacParticipant
Chofetz Chaim, which occupies all 5 slots.December 28, 2010 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm #722338
labubby – your not being specific enough, the whole yeshivisha world speaks yeshivish!December 28, 2010 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm #722339ItcheSrulikMember
Yeshivish may be defined by five criteria:
3-Skill at thumb-dreying
4-Ignorance of tanach
5-State of hats (the worse the better)
Thus, instead of having the top 5 yeshivos, we can have a first place in each category:
Poor English: Yeshiva Torah V’yireh d’Satmar, for not speaking English in Yeshiva b’shita.
Poor Yiddish: Yeshiva University, for having students who can speak for an hour or more on one R’ Chaim without using the word “tzushtell” once.
Skill at thumb-dreying: This one doesn’t go to any yeshiva in particular, but to every mesivta bochur who was ever asked a good kasha and tried to dig himself out of a “bor yud tfachim” using only his right thumb.
Ignorance of tanach: Lakewood, for being the alma mater of the one man I ever heard say a “the passuk is in Bava Metzia” and mean it.
Sate of hats: Yeshiva Tomchei Temimim d’Lubavitch, for having a twice-run-over hat as part of their levush.
LET THE BASHING OF WHAT WAS CLEARLY A JOKE … BEGIN!!December 28, 2010 4:21 pm at 4:21 pm #722340charliehallParticipant
Why this promotion of Yeshivish? Wouldn’t it be better to use proper Hebrew, Yiddish, and/or English?December 28, 2010 4:26 pm at 4:26 pm #722341artchillParticipant
1. Bais Hatalmud in Bensonhurst
2. Yeshiva Mekor Chaim (Rav Paler’s yeshiva)
3. Bais Medrash ElyonDecember 28, 2010 4:45 pm at 4:45 pm #722343WolfishMusingsParticipant
Let me give you some hard-earned parenting advice (although, if you are truly a bubby, I would think you would be aware of this already as you have more parenting experience than I do).
Do not focus on a list of the “best yeshivos.” The yeshiva you should be searching for is not the “best yeshiva” but rather the best yeshiva *for your son*. Just because a yeshiva is a “top yeshiva” that does not mean that it is necessarily right for your kid. You have to know your kid’s personality, temperament and academic ability. If you send your kid to a “top yeshiva” and it’s not right for him, you’ve lost far more than you gained.
Sadly, I’ve seen parents blindly chase “the best yeshiva” without regard to whether it was right for their particular kid. They either wanted the prestige of being associated with “the best yeshiva” or figured that because it was good for one of their kids that is must be good for all their kids*.
Do me a favor — instead of focusing on “the best yeshiva,” find the one that’s right for your kid. It may turn out that the “the best yeshiva” is the right one — but don’t focus the search solely on the reputation of the yeshiva while ignoring the particular needs of your kids.
* And, yes, I practice what I preach. I have two boys in high school — and they are in two different high schools because they are two different kids with different academic, religious and social needs. The high school that my oldest is in works for him — but was not right for his younger brother. We didn’t even apply to that school for him (and not because we’re not happy with that school).December 28, 2010 5:24 pm at 5:24 pm #722344artchillParticipant
As an LaBubby she is likely searching for a shidduch for her youngest daughter and wants to gain some WOW points. “WOW, what a yeshivish bochur, our family has finally hit the jackpot!!”
Know someone like that. Married his daughter to the “Top bochur” in Ponevezh. The ‘buyers remorse’ he is experiencing until this day is incredible.December 28, 2010 7:09 pm at 7:09 pm #722345Trying my bestMember
What criteria did you use to determine which kid needs which yeshiva? And for a regular kid, with no particular issues, what criteria would you think should be used?December 28, 2010 7:28 pm at 7:28 pm #722346not IMember
Riverdale and Phillie used to be the tops.. not sure which ones are now!
Times change, types of boys there at the time etc..December 28, 2010 8:19 pm at 8:19 pm #722347WolfishMusingsParticipant
What criteria did you use to determine which kid needs which yeshiva?
The style of learning, the hashkafic outlook of the schools and my kids (believe it or not, my kids are not hashkafic carbon copies of each other or myself), the academic qualities of the school and the academic abilities of my kids, the social environment of the schools and my kids (there is a wide range of social skills among my kids) and the personality of my kids and the character of the student body.
Taking those factors (and others) into account, we determined which was the best school for which kid. I’m positive that neither son would do as well as they are doing if they swapped schools.
Again, I can’t stress it enough — you can’t just look for the best school. You have to find the best school for your kid.
The WolfDecember 29, 2010 1:30 am at 1:30 am #722348
interesting discussiopn , wanted to know the top greasy places thats what i meant by yeshivish , and places that talk yeshivish , like fallsburg, long each etcDecember 29, 2010 1:40 am at 1:40 am #722349
Wolf- Kudos to you as an amazing parent! There are so many parents out there who look for “the best” yeshiva or “the top” yeshiva, without considering what will be best for their child.December 29, 2010 4:54 am at 4:54 am #722350
labubby – Top greasy places is lav davka muchrach to be the places that talk yeshivish, and fakert oichet (vice versa).December 29, 2010 4:58 am at 4:58 am #722351
so brisker name me the most greasy and yeshivish thenDecember 29, 2010 5:08 am at 5:08 am #722352
most gresay probaly stamford, most yeshivish fallsburgDecember 29, 2010 5:54 am at 5:54 am #722353
wherre does phili fall in?what about slamowitz in lakewoodDecember 29, 2010 7:45 am at 7:45 am #722354
Define “greasy”. (watch the differing definitions out there…)
AND PLEASE WRITE IN FULL SENTENCES! Commas do not take the place of verbs, prepositions or periods!
What is your question/point anyways LABUBBY?December 29, 2010 1:35 pm at 1:35 pm #722355
labubby – phili is americonishe yishivish, and slamowitz is a bit greasy, and pretty yishvishDecember 29, 2010 1:42 pm at 1:42 pm #722356
havesomeseichel – I think there was once a thread defining greasy.December 29, 2010 3:45 pm at 3:45 pm #722357ItcheSrulikMember
My frying pan from breakfast.December 29, 2010 6:00 pm at 6:00 pm #722358dunnoMember
Greasy and yeshivish are two different things? I guess you learn something new everyday.December 29, 2010 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm #722359not IMember
Yeshivish ppl could be but not necessarily greasy. greasy by definitionm are always yeshivish +!
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.