Yeshivish Clothing

It’s very simple: white shirt, black pants, black socks, black shoes, black jacket, black hat.

That’s it. No brands are necessary.

Just make sure your hair is short.

I agree with the above posters. A yeshiva boy should dress like a yeshiva boy, no ifs, ands, or buts. Once that is accomplished, you can do whatever you want. Your clothes provide the ultimate cover, tartei mashma.

@rational
how exactly did you get that from any of these posts…..

Depends what Yeshiva you are going to and what you can spend but here are the essentials. Charles Tyrwhitt shirts (usually 3/$99) extra slim fit with cutaway collar are the most popular. Black Cole haan zerogrands are a very popular pair of shoes (usually $100-$150 on Amazon/Zappos possible to get for even less on a good sale. For pants, if you want to splurge you can get Lululemon abc pants ($128) or you can look at Zara or H&M for much more affordable slim dress/stretch pants ($35+) you can also try hatbox or emporio if your going to a more yeshivish place
Socks really depend on what yeshiva, either black or nice patterns, but dont get anything too bright because it looks stupid

Borsalino hats are obviously the most popular, their lowest end hat (also the most durable) goes for $195 last I checked at the borsalino store on ave J.
For davening jacket you want to get a nice blazer not just your old shabbos jacket, maybe try Emporio.
For shabbos you want a nice suit, if you don’t have one you might want to try The Suit Lady in Teaneck, all suits are $300, make sure to find a good tailor. Shabbos shoes are a must, leave the shabbos sneakers in Baltimore
Btw don’t listen to Joseph, he has no idea what hes talking about. He probably graduated from torah vodaas class of 1970. edited

Welcome to New York

@Joseph blue, black, or grey jackets and pants are definitely fine in most yeshivas, maybe not chaim berlin or R Mottel Dick

intown: Do you think grey/blue pants would work in the Beis Medrash of BMG, Mir, Beis HaTalmud, Torah Vodass, Torah Temimah, etc.?

Apikorus joseph wants outatowner not to look fresh on his first day in his new Yeshiva

@OOT is splitting his sides…
He is A TROLL !!!!
CMON peoples !

Yes, some wear dark blue or dark grey suits in Mir Yeshiva.

GH:

I am afraid your advice of trying to keep something that is individual is risky. Yeshivos have been competing on levush for years now, and their dress codes are frequently cited as their identity or their status in contrast to other yeshivos. I am an anomaly that I conform to others, but consider the entire subject of levush a cruel joke. No, it should not be. One’s externals can impact positively on the internal. But is sadly does not as much as it once did. I suggest that my making rules, codes, and standards out of levush, the chashivus and its effects were tripped of it.

It might be interesting to check some of the biographies of Gedolim of yesteryear. The talmidim in several of the yeshivos in Litta would be expelled for entering today’s yeshivos with their garb. Even among the chassidishe kehilos, the levush was far from standard. I believe many of us here have experienced Yidden who are truly spiritual who lack the rigors of the yeshivish levush, as well as the opposite.

Don’t judge a book by its cover. Nor a bochur by his levush.

In response to asimpleyid

Some people never miss an opportunity to denigrate “Others”. They are best ignored, unless there is a danger that their poison will infect the innocent.

It’s simply appalling to see what we have come to. Go back 30, 40 years ago and no one would have thought to make impose such mishugas upon any bochur. Instructing him to buy specific brands of shirts, fancy davening jacket, only white shirts etc. It used to be that a bochur would learn in Yeshiva. No peer pressure for him to put on the pretty clothing from neither the rebbeim or other buchrim). So what if your shirt was blue?! Does that means you can’t learn Torah?! That you’re a apikores?! Chas V’Shalom!

Listen, wear something mentlich and you’ll be fine. I’ll go against what i just said and say wear the white shirt so as not to get yourself kicked out of Yeshiva. (Which is completely ridiculous if you think about it. I can get kicked out of Yeshiva for wearing a blue shirt!) But don’t for a second think that this is what defines you. Be it your watch or your tie, the color of your shirt or the brand, none of that defines who you are. You are no less of a Tzaddik then any other yid. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. You have a Yiddisheh Neshama and are going to learn in Yeshiva. Nothing else!

Honestly the yeshiva world has a lot to answer for. Perhaps some of you would like to enlighten me?

My point was very clearly not saying to wear whatever you want in Yeshiva. In fact I actually recommended to wear a white shirt so as to comply with the Yeshivas dress code. My comments were towards the Yeshiva system and not this bochur. The fact that the Yeshivos are run with a such an emphasis on clothing as a whole is rediculous. If they require a bochur to dress mentlich, gezunteh heit. But holding a bochur to extremes as the “white shirt syndrome” is ridiculous.

In regards to other private schools with uniforms. As I stated above, I never said to go against the dress code, I was commenting on the rather outrageous dress codes of certain Yeshivos.

Food for thought. The Yeshiva system is more focused on wearing a white shirt (some invented chumra) then teaching Bochurim the importance of the “Hadras Ponim Zokon” A mitzvah Dioiraissa!

VHere’s comments are not 100% wrong, they are actually mostly right. Whether he has PTSD to deal with does not subtract from their accuracy. Countless mussar shmuesses in high school and onward (apologies to you Syag if you are male, but if I remember correctly you are female) emphasized the Torah Jew Uniform in abject opposition to the non-uniformed , someone who cannot possibly be a Torah Jew. Referencing my parenthetical supposition, you have likely never heard these shmuesses, but I have heard many, and all yeshiva boys I know will corroborate this endemic message. The message is very clear, and it is as I stated: “A non-uniformed boy cannot be a Torah Jew.”
It is stated simply like that, and the dogma is that simple.

The only blatant inaccuracy in VHere’s comments is that he believes this approach has been around 30-40 years. I heard it close to 50 years ago. It hasn’t changed much, and history has shown that it enjoys tremendous success. That is a sad presentation.

Again parenthetically, it was no surprise that 10-15 years ago a major yeshiva photoshopped two blue shirts out of a full bes medrash picture featured in the yeshiva calendar. The photograph was used one year, and the identical photograph was reused the following year sans the two lonely light-blue shirts. Bad publicity that was fixed. The message was obvious. It is what it is. You are better off defending it than denying it.

Have to argue with @rational. I went thru the yeshiva system and while obviously the dress code was a white shirt (and would have been unacceptable to come to the yeshiva in a blue shirt) it was never brought out with that attitude that if a different yeshiva had people with blue shirts they were not torah Jews. So a drop of an exaggeration there.

Syag- how can you claim one person’s experiences are heresy? You we’re never in their place! It’s a beautiful thing that you’ve sent 7 sons to yeshiva, but that doesn’t mean you know more about yeshiva than someone who actually attended one. Bochurim typically don’t discuss yeshiva with their mothers. Even if you “feel” like to may know better, remember that you never went to yeshiva.

Consider that others may know more than you, it’s called being Modeh Al HaEmes.

The yeshiva outfit is meaningless and pointless. But it just is what it is, so get used to it. Also, most yeshiva bachurim (and their parents) are happy with it. No need for cancel culture.

Syag
You have a point that my personal experiences can’t be extrapolated to the entire system.

However, if a significant part of all yeshiva Bochurim and alumni agree that this is an issue (not just myself), there certainly is room to assume that this is true of the entire system. It is no longer my personal experience, it’s a part of the system.

Im also confused why i address rational and get first person responses fron VH. Are you a sock pupoet? I know (not definitively of course) from rationals posts that he has had little intimate contact with this wirld he is commenting on. And from what i remember of his postings, i don’t think he ever was part of these “white shirt” yeshivas. That is why i responded to his comments. The exact comments he decries when they are aimed at him.

Dear Syag,
I do not follow your critique. I said that most people are fine with how yeshiva bochurim dress. It is not a big deal. Also , see my reply to the OP above. #1877655

I heard directly from one Rosh Yeshivah (He was as highly regarded as a yeshivshe daas torah as one can be.) that there is no reason to where a white shirt or a black hat. [Of course he expected his talmidim to wear them.]

Asy – beautiful response

In nature, animals that deviate from the accepted “lvush” tend to get “eaten” more frequently by those higher up the food chaing than those that blend in to the herd, so perhaps you have a point. A red corvette is more likely to be ticketed for speeding, even if the driver is simply keeping up with all the other traffic.

I couldn’t agree more with asy. That said, of course there have to be gedarim. Just because a bochur should be wearing a white shirt and black pants doesn’t mean he should be pressured to spend many hundreds of dollars to get brand name clothing (see intownbochur #1877648)

Sorry to all, but I am bothered by the obsession with levush. The subject is not meaningless. We all know that the external has an effect on the internal. Yet, the visual presentation is a terribly inaccurate measure of someone’s true greatness. It is one thing to seek a uniform dress code to avoid the competitive issue, though that is often expected more in girls than boys. In my bochur days, there was nearly zero attention paid to the subject. And my generation, those on my class and the classes above and below me include quite a number of Roshei Yeshivos, Megidei Shiurim, Mechabrei Seforim, etc. All of these dressed in normal garb, not black pants with white shirts.

The focus on the external detracts from the focus on the internal, and that devastates the entire young generation today. The sheer number of adults in today’s population that are so superficial in their Avodas Hashem is staggering, despite the chumros of yoshon and bedikas tola’im. And the internal weaknesses translate into a failure to imbue the children to grow in Ahavas Hashem. I am on a front where many of these problems are exposed to me, and I am not presenting a theory. If any yeshiva invested as much effort into helping each and every talmid develop and nurture the cheishek to learn and follow mitzvos, as is given to the discipline over the dress code, our community would look vastly different. Kol Torah would not be measured in decibels but in the pervasive passion in learning.

In this day and age scociety is the oposite is all about the hoodies and sweatshirts if anything now we need to dress nice to NOt follow the rest of the world. But now that the nonjewish standerd of dress has been lowerd so to we can lower ours (but to a smaller level. The balance between the 2 is not for me to decide.