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    Alteh-mirer
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    I’m here to bring up an important topic, I have been around the globe more then once, and too many countries (thanks to Dan’s Deals credit card offer’s) and I can’t begin to explain to you how beautiful the nature of hashem is.
    But there’s one thing I can’t understand and I feel like the Yeshiva world does not get, there’s a whole community of nature people who take care of it and clean it, and still I go to places where our people go and see nonstop kosher packing and shopping bags on the ground.
    Like SERIOUSLY you obviously had the time to go out to the park why can’t you take the time to just “Take out what you brought in”, why can’t the people coming after you also enjoy meeting beautiful clean nature.
    I was a counselor in a camp, and we went on alot of trips and the first thing I showed them I care about is not to leave a bit of garbage, especially with kosher wrapping!
    Why do I have to go a half hour away from the Jewish city I live in, to a park and still find a kosher shopping bag littered with an empty box of snackers
    PLEASE WE’RE SUCH AN AWESOME NATION – LET’S SHOW OUR BEAUTY AND MAKE A KIDDUSH HASHEM

    #1873090
    SchnitzelBigot
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    You can’t fix the world. You can educate the people around you and that might create a ripple effect. Other than that, the only way to mitigate this Chillul Hashem is by picking up garbage in parks. One of my favorite hobbies is throwing away someone’s garbage right after they dropped it. (Hopefully it makes them feel stupid and not me)

    #1873273
    CTLAWYER
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    Back in the 60s I was a member pf our shul’s Boy Scout Troop. We were taught to leave this place as if you had never been there. No changes to nature, no garbage, no destruction.

    The old adage we were taught in 3rd grade by our reading teacher:

    LET NO ONE SAY TO YOUR SHAME,
    THAT ALL WAS BEAUTY UNTIL YOU CAME…………………..

    Sums it up perfectly

    #1873366
    n0mesorah
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    Dear Alteh,
    The Rosh Yeshivos do not go these parks, so they do not see it and tell us to keep them clean. Similarly, we are told to put away the seforim in the Bais Medrash, but we do not put away the milk in the dining room. We are told about the music by weddings, and not to dance like fools. But we are not told to behave by funerals, even after people are seriously injured.

    #1873496
    WolfishMusings
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    For what it’s worth…

    When I go to National Parks and other beautiful places in nature to do photography, I always make sure to leave nothing behind except footprints.

    If someone as rotten and horrible as I can adhere to this policy, then surely decent people the world over should be able to.

    The Wolf

    #1873562
    Gadolhadorah
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    I generally find that frum families are aware of the need to pick up after themselves in park settings. The few times I’ve seen flagrant disregard for leaving trash behind/ littering are in the context of large families with very young children who likely are NOT regular park visitors (outside of local city parks) and are just overwhelmed with keeping track of the kids, etc. Most respond positively (and with some embarrassment) when someone points out the mess they were about to leave behind. I don’t think its a cultural disregard for nature or an arrogance that since they don’t plan to be back the next day or week, “who cares”. I do wish more yeshivos would find some opportunity to encourage environmental awareness and personal responsibility in the daily lives of their talmidim to be good stewards of (in the words of the OP) “the beautiful nature of Hashem”.

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