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  • #2008207
    Reb Eliezer
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    Yom Kipurim as they are both Kabolas Hatorah. We should realy eat and drink on Yom Kippur but kapora is also a simcha, enjoyment. We make it up with Erev Yom Kippur. So women would also be mechuyeves in the mitzva of eating Erev Yom Kippur as it is part of Yom Kippur.

    #2008229
    Reb Eliezer
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    The mishna in Taanis says כשם כשנכנס אב ממעטין בשמחה as when Av arrives we diminish enjoyment כך משנכנס אדר מרבין בשמחה, similarly onwhen Ador arrives, we increase the enjoyment. What is the connection? Fasting is certainly done lashem shomayim. for the sake of heaven, Hashem but enjoying ourselves through eating might not, so we have Purim where our enjoyment should be lashem shimayim. Yom Kippur when we are not eating misses this enjoyment which should be made up through Erev Yom Kippur.

    #2008570
    KGN
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    יום כפורים

    Both are spiritually uplifting holidays.

    The emotional response should be the same.

    The difference? One is more physical.

    #2008588
    Health
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    RE – On Erev Yom Kippur – I heard the Klausenburg Rebbe talking about this. He said YK is like Purim.
    I didn’t stay to hear the whole thing.

    There’s a lot of Torah on this subject. Purim is Avodah from Ahava, while YK is from Yira.

    Btw – This is before he moved to Netanya.

    #2008652
    Reb Eliezer
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    KGN, when we fast on YK, we put our physical sense to sleep and awaken our spiritual sense.

    #2008658
    Reb Eliezer
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    Also. Purim we first fast then eat, appreciating eating more and YK we eat first and then fast feeling the fast more.

    #2008664
    Reb Eliezer
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    The holy Berdichever explains the Midrash ולקחתם לכם ביום הראשון it should say to take the lulav the fifteenth not the first day, says the Midrash, ראשון לחשבן עונות first for counting sins. YK the teshuva is miyiroh, from fear but Sukkas the teshuva is from ahava, from love converting the sins to good deeds, benefits, so we can start counting our sins.

    #2008665
    Benephraim
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    Is anyone aware of the first מקור of this comparison? Is it טור ברקת perhaps?

    #2008939
    Reb Eliezer
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    There is another similarity between the two כל הפושט יד נותנים לו whoever stretches out his hand give him. Purim below, us, we should give him and Yom Kippur above, Hashem will give him.

    #2008935
    Reb Eliezer
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    The sefer Shevet Mussar from the 1700 quotes from his rebbi that Purim is mechaper, forgives the sins just as Yom Kippur.

    #2009085
    CHOOSID
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    GESHMAK TO BE A YID!!!
    ELUL!!!
    TISHREI!!!
    GESHMAK!!!!!!!!

    #2009107
    zaidy78
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    Just saw a beautiful pshat from Pesach Krohn in the new book on Yomim Noraim.
    On Purim, we were actually zoche to the ובכן תן פחדך And Then the following paragraphs that all the Hashem instilled his fear amongst the nations, which caused them to respect klal Yisroel, which brought about ובכן צדיקים יראו וישמחו, of which eventually brought about בית המקדש השני.
    So on Purim it actually happened, and therefore on the holiest day of the calendar we hope to have a day יום כיפורים, the Day that we should be zoche to again במהרה.

    #2009140
    Reb Eliezer
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    The holiest day is shabbos which has sekila and seven aliyos. It says by shabbos, ‘שבת שבתון הוא לה where as by YK it says שבת שבתון הוא לכם when YK falls on sbabbos, we fast as the kapara is an oneg shabbos. The Chasam Sofer shows the greatness of the neshama. The holiest you might say is the mishkan, the residence of Hashem. Its builing is not dacha, push away shabbos but pekuach nefesh, saving a live because of the neshama is dacha shabbos. So the neshama is the holiest. Maybe YK is the most productive dqy.

    #2067691
    Reb Eliezer
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    We need to do teshuva on Purim from joy.

    #2067861
    Reb Eliezer
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    The Berdichever ztz’l explains that when we are happy doing teshuva, mitzvas and maasim tovim, we make Hashem also happy and כל הפושט יד נותנים לו, so one who stretches his hand towards the Heaven will be answered as Yom Kippur where teshuva is done from fear.

    #2067911
    Reb Eliezer
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    We find the comparison in תיקוני זוהר (נז,ב) – Tekunei Zohar (57,2).

    #2070284
    Reb Eliezer
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    The Chidushei Harim has an interesting explanation for drinking on Purim with a story. A person collected a lot of money to perform an aveira. When he saw how some people were suffering, he forgot everything about doing an aveira and gave the money to them. They were so impressed in the heavens that they decreed that whatever he asks for should be granted to him. Making sure that he should not ask for something that they were not willing to abide by, they also decreed on him that the rest of his life he should be a drunk thereby he should not being able to think clearly. Purim is so great that all prayers are listened to that day, so we are commanded to drink in order not to ask for something that they are unwilling to grant.

    #2070794

    I think you_all are answering the wrong question! You seem to be comparing Purim to YK, as if Purim is caleed v yom kikipurim! We don’t need to clarify what Purim is, we need to clarify what YK is and how it is as holy as Purim! L’Chaim.

    #2070928
    Reb Eliezer
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    They compare YK and Purim as they both had lots picked. Yom Kippur was selected to Hashem or Lazozel. Purim the Yaaros Devash says that there were two lotteries two validate each other. One, for the months and another for the days. To be a valid lottery, the day number picked had to be able to fall into the month number picked.

    #2123998
    Reb Eliezer
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