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  • #1156545
    stanleyc
    Participant

    I am partial to choice #1 and choice #3. And choice #4. And choice #4.

    #1156546
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “Mr. big talker, patur aval assur…”

    (stanleyc)

    #1156547
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “You stole that T’shuvah…”

    (Sam2)

    “This is not reform”

    (John)

    “Just to annoy you.”

    (writersoul)

    “Right is right, whether you can successfully prove it or not.”

    (DaasYochid)

    #1156548
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    That quote wasn’t about you. Thank you for demonstrating my point.

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/your-coffee-room-report-card-comments#post-530082

    #1156549
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    Yes it was about me! You quoted me: “It doesn’t matter if we are right because we have the truth” and responded with: “Of course it does. Same argument as in the other (Daas Torah?) thread. Right is right, whether you can successfully prove it or not. I think you even put a line of mine in the good quotes thread.”

    #1156550
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Yes, it was directed towards you, and referred to something you said, but it wasn’t *about* you.

    To quote from your OP: “A selection of the awesome comments people have said about me in the Coffee Room:”.

    Unless you’ve now taken this entire thread out of context…

    🙂

    #1156551
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    You are correct in the pure meaning of what I wrote. However, I meant “A selection of the awesome comments people have said in reference to me in the Coffee Room:” but most of the ones in the beginning were direct insults so I wasn’t so medakdek in my choice of words.

    But once we are nitpicking, I didn’t demonstrate your point because I didn’t take the quote out of any context that would affect the meaning of the quote. All I did was post a quote which might not have qualified to be in this thread.

    #1156552
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Ah, but it wasn’t “in reference” to you (which means the same as “about” you), it was an idea which I happened to be discussing with you. Since there was absolutely nothing personal even hinted at in my statement, it was out of context in the thread, which was supposed to be about comments referring to you. By putting it in this thread, you imply that there’s some way of construing it as personal, which there isn’t.

    For example, lines and phrases such as, “your asinine intellectually dishonest misconceptions”, “It doesn’t matter how many seforim you can quote, you are crum”, “You for some reason seem incapable of making what is a fairly straightforward distinction” [ed. the “for some reason” is probably insufficient learning b’iyun :)], “You just like being contrarian”, “people find you so annoying…”, and even, “…taking R’ Chaim out of the realm of “hypothetical lomdus” is so outrageous, yet that is what you are doing” can be understood as being “about”, or “in reference to”, you. But, “Right is right, whether you can successfully prove it or not” has nothing to do with you, and cannot reasonably be construed that way.

    #1156553
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    Ok, maybe I didn’t explain myself properly. When I said “in reference to me” I meant that it was said referencing me i.e. in response to me.

    #1156554
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Well, the ones that were about you were more funny (although I certainly do not agree with many of them).

    Either way, I do appreciate your inclusion of some of my sayings in your list of “awesome” comments.

    #1156555
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “Well, the ones that were about you were more funny”

    I completely agree but unfortunately I seem to have exhausted the reservoirs of those comments the people that I am currently arguing with in various threads are too polite to say such things.

    “although I certainly do not agree with many of them”

    Which means you do agree with some of them. Probably the ones you quoted in your previous post.

    #1156556
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “Either way, I do appreciate your inclusion of some of my sayings in your list of “awesome” comments.”

    Just keep in mind that even if I think that you had an awesome line it doesn’t mean that I think the line is valid in (certain) arguments, for instance the line about proving the truth.

    #1156557
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Probably the ones you quoted in your previous post.

    Well, one of them, anyhow. I’m too polite to agree to the others.:)

    Just keep in mind that even if I think that you had an awesome line it doesn’t mean that I think the line is valid in (certain) arguments, for instance the line about proving the truth.

    Oh well, maybe one day…

    #1156558
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “PAA, you seem to spend a lot of time delving deeply into the sugya of why we shouldn’t spend a lot of time delving deeply into one sugya.”

    (DaasYochid)

    #1156559
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    It was even in context!

    🙂

    #1156560
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “It was even in context!”

    You are not allowed to say something complimentary about me in this thread. You’ll have to start a new one for that.

    #1156561
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    If you would know how to learn b’iyun, you would have chapped that it was a backhanded compliment. 😉

    #1156562
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    DaasYochid:

    If you keep this up you will soon take the lead for most comments against me. Counting the most recent one, you have 8, second only to

    TorahUmadda-731-MelechYavanHarasha’s 9.

    #1156563
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Oh, good, it counts even if I post it, instead of you.

    It’s a little unfair, though, since I am involved in more discussions/debates with you than the others.

    #1156564
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “since I am involved in more discussions/debates with you than the others.”

    That’s just their loss. Feel good about yourself that I deem you (somewhat of) a worthy opponent against whom I am willing to spend time debating. Probably though, the reason is that I (generally) post on Torah (in a broad sense of the word) related topics, which do not seem to be such an attraction to the average poster.

    #1156565
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    Can’t believe I missed this one:

    “Some of PAA’s comments are tolerable.”

    (popa_bar_abba)

    #1156566
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Is he beating me now?

    #1156567
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    Yeah, Popa now has 9 – tied with TorahUmadda-731-MelechYavanHarasha.

    #1156568
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “And there you go again, mixing up proof and being right.”

    (DaasYochid)

    #1156569
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “Now watch PAA make painful diyukim on my line.”

    (DaasYochid)

    #1156570
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “oh stop it!!!!”

    (cozimjewish)

    #1156571
    cozimjewish
    Member

    Hey!!! I was quoted by The Mighty Powerful and Awesome Patur Aval Assur! Yay! I’m so proud of myself ;)!!!

    #1156572
    cozimjewish
    Member

    Oh wait a minute. Was that too complimentary? Sorry

    #1156573
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “The Mighty Powerful and Awesome Patur Aval Assur”

    ?????????? ?????? ????

    #1156574
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “If this is anything like the iyun thread, you’ll never end up deciding.”

    (DaasYochid)

    #1156575
    Randomex
    Member

    (This is probably the the only time I’ll appear in this thread – I don’t believe in ad hominem attacks.)

    “The Mighty Powerful and Awesome Patur Aval Assur”

    ?????????? ?????? ????

    LOL! For anyone who doesn’t understand, that last line is Aramaic for, essentially, “Have you finished all the praise?”

    In the original context, (Brachos 33b*) a man who had added on to the standard formula of ??? ????? ????? ?????? at the beginning of Shmoneh Esrei is being questioned rhetorically if his additions had exhausted Hashem’s praises (i.e. seeing as this cannot be done, one should refrain from any such additions).

    In this context, PAA questions, as if out of arrogance, why

    cozimjewish did not give him more titles. The humor derives from

    both the in-context meaning and what it references.

    *I was only familiar with Megilla 25a, but that was enough to get the joke, and I found the version with ?????? on the Hebrew Wikisource.

    #1156576
    cozimjewish
    Member

    The reason I didnt answer the question was because I had no clue what on earth it was asking;)

    #1156577
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    Finally, someone got it. I was originally going to quote the entire passage, but I figured that I would then get accused of deifying myself.

    And why do you say “as if out of arrogance”?

    #1156578
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “The reason I didnt answer the question was because I had no clue what on earth it was asking;)”

    For future reference, I don’t bite, so you can ask me to clarify what I have said/asked/answered.

    #1156579
    cozimjewish
    Member

    “For future reference, I don’t bite, so you can ask me to clarify what I have said/asked/answered.”

    Translating hebrew/ lashon hakodesh (and certainly Aramaic, for that matter) is reeeeeaaaallly reeeeaaally reeeeeeeeaaaalllly NOT my thing. Didnt wanna sound stupid, so I waited to see if anybody else would ask……which they didnt, which made me think it must be something really obvious that I am supposed to know 😉

    #1156580
    Randomex
    Member

    Finally, someone got it.

    How many people (that you don’t quote here) do you think read this thread?

    I said “as if” so as not to accuse you of arrogance.

    #1156581
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    So I guess I should have invoked ?? ??? ??.

    #1156582
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “How many people (that you don’t quote here) do you think read this thread?”

    Everyone.

    “I said “as if” so as not to accuse you of arrogance.”

    Which is precisely why I asked.

    #1156583
    Randomex
    Member

    You’re either proclaiming real arrogance or remaining in-character, right? Or is there a third interpretation?

    #1156584
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    Depends what you mean by “in-character”.

    #1156585
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “Facetious”

    (Randomex)

    “I think this is facetious…”

    (Randomex)

    #1156586
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “…I realized how bad your portrayal of the other CR members was…”

    (DaasYochid)

    #1156588
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “”merely spewing Aramaic quotes that have no relevance to anything, but give the impression of being somewhat learned.”

    Precisely the point I was trying to make”

    (cozimjewish)

    #1156589
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “In other words ‘do I have to be consistent and not hypocritical.'”

    (rationalfrummie)

    #1156590
    cozimjewish
    Member

    PAA – You left out the wink, which portrays me as cynical rather than joking as I intended

    (Cozimjewish)

    #1156591
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    So you don’t actually think that I am merely spewing Aramaic quotes that have no relevance to anything, but give the impression of being somewhat learned?

    #1156592
    Randomex
    Member

    Randomex: How many people (that you don’t quote here) do you think read this thread?

    Patur Avul Assur: Everyone.

    Well, let’s find out! If you read this thread, please speak up.

    If you don’t read this thread…

    Never mind, this poll is called off!

    >>>>

    Me: You’re either proclaiming real arrogance or remaining in-character, right? Or is there a third interpretation?

    Patur Aval Assur: Depends what you mean by “in-character”.

    I retract both interpretations of your statement as mistakes.

    The first interpretation (proclaiming real arrogance as a joke) is still a valid option for your question, but unless I’m mistaken, the meaning of both is that you wanted to clarify whether I was or was not accusing you of arrogance.

    >>>>

    “Facetious”

    (Randomex)

    “I think this is facetious…”

    (Randomex)

    Please disregard those statements, everyone. The meaning I intended is not what “facetious” actually means – I too am occasionally tripped up by my own Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness.

    >>>>

    “…I realized how bad your portrayal of the other CR members was…”

    (DaasYochid)

    So, by considering this a relevant comment about you, are you saying you were actually attempting to portray us in character?

    [Reader references: http://theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/good-jokes/page/33#post-536619

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/creative-writing-cr-users-in-real-life#post-540659 ]

    >>>>

    To clarify a previous comment:

    merely spewing Aramaic quotes that have no relevance to anything, but give the impression of being somewhat learned.

    (Patur Avul Assur)

    Precisely the point I was trying to make

    (cozimjewish)

    Also see here: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/your-coffee-room-report-card-comments/page/2#post-540812

    >>>>

    So you don’t actually think that I am merely spewing Aramaic quotes that have no relevance to anything, but give the impression of being somewhat learned?

    She doesn’t have to answer that!

    I’ll answer for myself, though – I know

    that not to be the case.

    (Explanation for everyone else: All she said was that her statement did not mean that – she did not say whether she believed it or not. That’s what he’s asking.)

    #1156593
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    I’m confused about the whole arrogance thing.

    And it’s still your move in the forest thread.

    #1156594
    Randomex
    Member

    Here are some unauthorized quotes:

    “this is a very serious question I think we sould ask patur avul assur”

    (Bendit)

    “Patur avul Assur- you […] have obviosuly no respect for our Minhagim and our Gedolim. Shame on you.”

    (smartcookie)

    EDIT: I actually forgot to check if those were already there before posting, but it turns out they weren’t. I noticed Smartcookie’s other quote from that thread, through.

    #1156595
    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    Randomex:

    This thread is only for non-complimentary comments, so the first one doesn’t belong.

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