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Plenty of Rabbonim went to college and studied secular subjects:
R’ Hutner
Novominsker Rebbe
R’ Shlomo Wolbe
R’ Dovid BenderThere are others, these are just a few.
R Miller
Doesn’t mean anything. They were young men, not rabbonim, at the time. They may have regretter certain things. Especially considering that they themselves, having come out of it and experienced what it was, when they became older and wiser and Rabbonim and Daas Torah, they had the insight to criticize doing so.
Oddly nobody mentioned what Rav Gifter said about YU in one of his speeches then you could probably find on YouTube. He definitely said they completely lost their way even if they originally were founded with the right intentions. From what I see today I don’t know how someone could even fathom sending a son there
rebEmes: so tell me, what do you see today?
First, you need to differentiate between YU management and rabonim, like R Soloveitchik or R Schachter.
2nd, you need to consider who is the target audience and what it achieves:1. it teaches lots of college-bound kids who would otherwise go to high/mid-level colleges and live on campus. In many aspects, being at YU provides both better learning and social experience than Columbia or Rutgers. Worst case, they’ll spend their time in midtown, marrying a YU girl …
2. it teaches rabonim who will be well prepared to lead non-charedi communities. I’ve met such rabbis and they are pretty good.
@ AAQ
“Go slain your rebbe who taught you boolean Algebra”
This was a great line
Np, I don’t recall writing this but it took you some time to get the joke. Did you just stumble at the gemora about Yoav?
Ill just differentiate between YU as an institution vs its graduates. Also I mean the yeshiva and not the college. I as a charedi can attest to working with some of those graduates. They are often more ehrlich and bali halacha than the yeshiva guys. Much more emes people too. I worked with one who only davened mincha in the office when he knew he wouldn’t make it home on time. Otherwise of course you daven in shul. He also woke up 5Am avery day and learned till 7. This guy as a VP and sadly was nifter young. As ehrlich as they come.
Chaim87 said this on 2026 May 27 at 5:57 pm
in a discussion titled:
“YU vs the Greater Yeshiva World“:“I as a Charedi can attest to
working with some of those [YU] graduates.They [YU graduates] are often more ehrlich
and Baalei Halachah than the yeshiva guys.Much more emes people too.
I worked with one who only davened mincha in the office
when he knew he would not make it home on time.
Otherwise of course you daven in shul.He also woke up 5 AM every day and learned till 7. ”
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MY RESPONSE:THANK YOU!!
To the group
Only a blind fool would refuse to see how many great Rabbonim are being produced by YU. In addition, the YU ethic stresses honesty something which is missing in much of the Charedi world. And I am not from YU, but truth is truth.
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