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GAON
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MDd,
“Gaon, this is how other Achronim learn it with the Brisker Rov’s girsa.”

IS IGNORANCE AN EXCUSE FOR APIKORSUS:

I don’t really see where it contradicts the above Rav Chaim. Even if we say that it’s conditional the Rambam does say ????? ??????? ????? ?????????
The Rambam should have said ????? ????? ” ‘Yemaher’ looks like that in essence he is already in a state of ‘Moridin’ only, he is a complete ‘Onus’ thus we wait and not “rush” . In any case, once he is exposed to any form of Judaism – ignorance is by no means any excuse, which is our case.

Rav Chaim Brisker says this chidush to explain the Rambam’s shitah in Hilchos Teshuva regarding Hashem’s incorporeality – anyone believing G-d is any sort of a physical form is a MIN , he answers the Ravad’s known hasagah : “that many fine and better Jews perceived G-d as a physical form due to Pesukim etc”… this is how its quoted by Rav Elchonan Wasserman in Kovetz Ha’aros in the name of Rav Chaim, that:

“Nebach An Apikorus Iz Oich An Apikorus”.

He is deriving it from the above Rambam in Pirush haMishnayos as he completes the 13 Ikrim he states:

????? ????? ???? ??? ??????? ???, ??????? ?????? ??? – ??? ???? ???? ?????
Its seems like without that he is not part – ???? ???? ?????

In fact, The Abarbenal in Rosh Amunah has the very same explanation on the Rambam vs the Raavad. The Ra’avad upholds that if the belief is due to misreading the Pesukim and Chazal, then he is not considered an apikoras, whereas the Rambam holds that no matter what the excuse – you cannot be part of Judaism if you think G-D is anything sort of corporeal. He explains that there are two types of ‘minim’ one unintentionally which Hashem awaits for his Tshuvah and one is like Acher/Elisha, intentional, that his teshuva was not accepted, but in essence they are both the same:

See the below link at the beginning of the page.
http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=32592&st=&pgnum=25

Rav Moshe Feinstein ZTL paskens like the above (regarding “edim’ and answers the Rambam of “Tinuk Sh’nishbu”, I will quote (Aven Ha’ezer Vol 1:82 Anaf 11) :

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