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    Ex-ChabadShlucha
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    Hi, as you all probably know, I like this forum despite some issues with it. I’ve been absent from here for an extended period, and you probably noticed me not answering my last thread. I came back now after much reflection on which I wish to share with everyone.

    Some of you may have thought I don’t give serious consideration to the comments addressed to me, but I really do. It took awhile to reflect on much of them but I’m finally able to share the point I’ve reached over the past several months.

    I always had in the back of my head questions about my old positions, even on the ones I’ve taken strong positions here. But I mostly attributed that to all the “noise” against Chabad and figured it was just getting to me, and was best ignored. But now that I had some free time in my life I really considered everything in much greater detail. And what I’ve realized (drumroll) is that many of you are really right.

    I’m not really comfortable right now getting into the nitty gritty’s of my recent thought processes and how I’ve changed. At least not yet. Maybe I’ll come to the point of being comfortable sharing it here again. But for now I just wanted to thank everyone, especially those who disagreed with me very strongly.

    #2434574
    Happy new year
    Participant

    What was ur original name?

    #2434583
    Non Political
    Participant

    Welcome back

    #2434573
    SQUARE_ROOT
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    When the Melech HaMashiach finally comes,
    Chabad will be in very big trouble,
    because they will REJECT the Melech HaMashiach,
    because the Melech HaMashiach will NOT be Rabbi Schneerson.

    The Melech HaMashiach will then have the Halachic authority
    to execute [kill] the entire membership of Chabad,
    because that is the Halachic penalty for anyone who
    rebels against a king from the dynasty of King David.

    #2434602
    Uncle Ben
    Participant

    Welcome back. I hope you and your family are well.

    #2434959
    Yaakov Yosef A
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    Chabad Shlucha – Please, if you really do love and respect the Rebbe, his teachings, and his legacy (I also do, although I am not Lubavitch myself), PLEASE DO NOT START THESE THREADS. There are a small number (possibly only one) of seriously disturbed trolls, with an obsessive hate of Lubavitch, who hijack the conversation and turn it into a rage-room full of disgusting hate language and ביזוי תלמידי חכמים, that bears no resemblance to a real Torah debate. Look at what happened to ‘Hi I’m Back 3.0’, now with almost 900 comments, almost all of them pure garbage. (Where are the moderators?! Do they do anything at all? If someone would use the same language ‘qwerty613’ uses about the Lubavitcher Rebbe to describe a Litvish Gadol, would that also be OK with them? No deletions ever?) If you REALLY ARE CHABAD (?), so PLEASE DON’T FEED THE TROLLS.

    #2434960
    Yaakov Yosef A
    Participant

    Chabad Shlucha – Please don’t take what I said personally. I have the utmost respect for Chabad and especially the Shlichim. The Rebbe זצ״ל didn’t hold of debates with misnagdim. There are plenty of Yidden out there to reach out to without wasting time debating people who have no intention of being מקבל anything.

    #2435060
    Punk
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    SQUARE_ROOT והקע אותם נגד השמש. See Rashi. God judges individually.

    Neverthelss, it is indeed potentially a major haalchic issue for anyone who is diehard on a specific individual for the moshiachship. Diehard specifically.

    Regarding the death penalty, he might put you to death for sowing discord amongst the קומה שלימה of beis yisroel. Just be careful.

    #2435078
    Non Political
    Participant

    @SR

    Are you a prophet to know in advance who will reject Moshiach? Most Chabbadskers (including Moshichist) are sincere people who are making an error. Even if we accept that choosing such a belief as an adult shows a serious lack of discernment, many are raised on this from childhood. I think Moshiach will be able to demonstrate the emes to sincere yidden who are want to do the ratzon Hashem.

    #2435353
    Avram in MD
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    “because they will REJECT the Melech HaMashiach”

    I have a real problem with this type of statement. Similar things have been said before, like Moshiach will be rejected by some because he wears a srugi, by others because he wears a shtreimel, etc. It’s a backwards attempt to call for achdus, but the root of it is denigration, either of specific groups of Jews or all Jews. What you wrote doesn’t even have the veneer of calling for achdus. When Moshiach comes, it will be like the shevatim when Yosef declared, אני יוסף העוד אבי חי and everything that had happened fell into place in a second and they were too shocked to speak. We will understand in a flash, and the beis hamikdash will be rebuilt and we will all return to Eretz Yisroel. It won’t be like some guy who sponsors a big kiddush, gives a middling drash by the Galil, throws some tables over in the courtyard, then gets himself executed by the Romans and his followers have to try for the next 2000 years to convince us using weird distortions of pesukim. It will be so comfortingly clear it’s described in the nevi’im as a baby nursing his mother.

    #2435370
    sechel83
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    I agree with Yaakov Yosef a. Btw I think this x chabad shlucha is not really cs, it’s fake.

    #2435385
    Punk
    Participant

    @mods vetting my post about …

    Sorry, going to err on the side of caution here.

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