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I don’t know about that, Cantoresq. Sounds pretty impressive to ME!!!! Yasher Koach to your son, in particular. I think you have the right idea. It’s more important for the kids to be ABLE to stay up for the whole seder, than it is to prolong it. I still laugh when I remember how we all came to shul bleary-eyed, everyone trying to “my-seder-was-longer-than-yours” each other. Yes, it is commendable when talmidei chachomim sat until shacharis time telling over their D”T, but for most little kiddies, for whom the seder is expressly designed, if they are up until chad gadya by midnight, that is a wonderful accomplishment. (just a note, I nearly fell asleep in the middle of shfoch chamoscha). This Daylight Savings Time thing just doesn’t work for me until AFTER Pesach. We did start the Shul time a 1/2 hour later than usual both mornings, in order to make it a tad easier for everyone to catch a few extra zzzzs. My hubby was up for hashkama, anyway.