Yes, I know that R’ Chaim also said that the nosei keilim still count as torah. If you could explain that line to me, I would be very happy
Let’s see. Could it possibly be related to the idea you’ve rejected, and I’ve quoted an explicit Ohr Zarua about, that (some?) Rishonim wrote with more than just their own sechel ? [As far as nosei keilim – I’m only aware of this idea being applied to Rishonim. I doubt anyone would say it too far down the line].
So you are saying that we should design the curriculum of the yeshivas based on the fact that rebbeim will have no job?
No, I’m saying nothing of the sort. Simply explaining why its not part of any curriculum per se. I already said that I agree that time allocated is up for debate.
While it is not my job to justify why people don’t follow the Roshei Hayshiva, I would venture to postulate that there is simple reason: The style of Iyun is enjoyable…
I was not talking about the hamon am, but clearly referred to the Roshei Yeshiva setting policy. Despite the call of the gedolim you mentioned, most do not follow suit – nor are their own yeshivos so different.