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ubiquitin: I really want to first finish my numbers, because thats my point you and others are attacking and the one I am defending.
For #2)
You disagree that a “masorah dinner” does not imply that it represnts or is in line with the Jewish masorah? These dinners are also called masorah dinners.
“Again I’m npot saying there is no level to strive towards to avoid this meal. I am questioning the Tochacha for those not on the level.”
No no no- you are cheating. I never referred to giving tochacha in my list. Thats not #4. (I dont want this to turn into a conversation about proper speech and when and when not to say things- that belongs in a different thread. This is regarding the validity of my words in the first place- not freedom of speech). And I am talking about the hypocrisy of the dinner.
#4 is… the concept of nuval bereshus hatorah applies to the every-man, and is not limited to the most elite of Jewish people.
ubiquitin: out of those numbers you gave me 12456 are not worth discussing as they dont relate to my point or are obvious. for number 3- this level in terms of a nuval is somewhat subjective to a certain degree but like a said, a dinner like this is certainly included.