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Sam2: It seems more that it’s up to debate what should be covered. That there is no set in stone from the Torah…. So what is ervah? Everyone here says knees, elbows, collarbone. I learned it’s a tefach above the knee and elbow and a tefach below the collarbone.

gavra: Please tell me what it says in the third perek of Brachos. It is a huge struggle for me and it will be some motivation if I know exactly what it says.

I really want to keep all the halachot to the fullest letter of the law! It is made so much more difficult when we know the Torah says one thing, but in this regard, the entire halacha is based on hearsay. I want to know what the Torah expects.