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yichusdik
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Health, I gave a lot of thought to answering your post. And I thought twice because I didn’t want to answer rashly.

You wrote – “The point is, what you “Frum” Zionim fail or don’t want to understand is this:”

Really, Health, if you get some kind of gratification from putting my frumkeit, or that of other Zionists, in quotation marks, go right ahead. I answer to HKBH’s yardstick, not to yours.

You go on to write

“What does the Gov. do on this day? They speak about how strong they are -how strong their army is and how much stronger they & the army will be. People who learned all the Torah, not just pick bits & pieces to fit their fancy, understand this is clearly Koach V’oizem Yodi Ossoh Ess Hachayil Hazeh.”

Well, you happen to be quoting a posuk I’ve known and studied intimately, as it is in my bar mitzvah parsha. But I will tell you, I have been lucky in my professional and personal life to have met and interacted with 3 Israeli Prime Ministers and one President. I’ve had many hours of discussion with soldiers in the IDF, from the level of General to Private, from jobnikim to elite commandos. I can’t count the number of times they have described the nisim and niflo’os involved in the creation and the defense of Israel. It’s simply slander to describe these people in the way you have.

Menachem Begin, who I never met, was a God fearing and God praising Jew. If you ever bothered to read his books or speeches, he was constantly thanking HKBH for his nisim. Every motzoei shabbos in his apartment he would gather talmidei chachomim and intellectuals for a parsha shiur and discussion.

President Peres, who I first met when he was foreign minister, and later when he was President, has said this explicitly and publicly. He has worked with many frum organizations, including Aish Hatorah, and has publicly given thanks to HKBH for their work.

Bibi Netanyahu praised and quoted the Lubavitcher Rebbe in his speech to the UN in September. Look it up. He also made detailed reference to Chizkiyahu hamelech and our sovereignty and yearning over hundreds of generations. Nothing, not a word like you describe. Look it up. He closed with an ‘im yirtzeh hashem, and his last line was a quote from Yishayohu. You are either wilfully ignoring facts or you are sadly mistaken in your assumptions.

“Being like this is Direct Kefira against Hashem and is one of the reasons Hashem brings destruction on the Jews. (Parsha Tochocha)”

It might be if it were true. I’ve given personal edus and public expressions that it is not true. And more – Please, talk to any individual who has been in combat. I’ve talked to dozens. Even the most secular of them will not say kochi v’otzem yodi. Most will say Hashem protected them. Even the Atheists among them will say their comrades were the giborim, not them. Show me a boastful chayal who says kochi veotzem yodi, and I will show you someone who has never been in combat.

“Why can’t you understand this simple concept? Why do you have such Negious to the Freye Medina?”

I am proud to have such negious to the medina. There could be a number of reasons for it. Two of my four grandparents were Yerushalmim, and their families had to leave because of the oppression of the Turks before we were sovereign. Some of my (frum) relatives helped establish the state,and too many of my father’s family perished because of a lack of it.

I studied Jewish History both within the frum velt and academically, and write about it. I know my sources. I know the cost of not having sovereignty.

I know that the flourishing of Torah in the last 64 years would never have happened without a sovereign Jewish state.

I worked to get Russian Jews out of danger and to Israel when Pamyat was collecting their addresses for a pogrom in 1990. The state you curse took them in. You probably don’t even know who Pamyat were.

One of the most incredible Jews I ever met was a not very religious old man named Micha Feldman. Micha organized the airlift of Ethiopian Jews in 1991, saving them from persecution and starvation. (Rav Moshe Feinstein endorsed the rescue of Ethiopian Jews before he was nifter). Micha also created an organization to help families of victims of terror. He didn’t discriminate between frum and frei. Micha worked with and for the government you curse, and he also thanked HKBH for the miracles he was involved in.

I could go on, but I think it is unlikely any of this will have an impact on you. You make and advocate seemingly false assumptions about other Jews. You will also have to answer for them before HKBH.