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Lilmod Ulelamaid
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ZD: “I am firm beliver in Or LaGoyim and IMo Or LaGoyim is not everyone adding 5 mins to learning every day, but rather in our dealing with the outside world , People need to see we are Or LaGoyim by our actions and not have to tell them that

I have zero tolerance for people who do things that cause people to think jews are abusers, tax cheats or thives and I think we should all have zero tolerance for such things”

If you are concerned about causing a chilul Hashem, you are the one causing the Chilul Hashem (and lack of ohr l’goyim) by publicizing these things on a public forum.

If you truly want to find a way to encourage people to be more yashar, the way to do that would be by starting a thread stating the halachos involved and urging people to try to follow them, but w/o including stories about people who were “over” on these halachos, but rather by including stories of people and gedolim who followed these halachos.

I heard once the following from Rav Leff: Why is it that there were proportionately more “arei miklat” on “aiver haYarden”? It is brought down that there were more murders there since the Land there had less kedusha so the people there were on a lower level.So Rav Leff’s question was, “what does that have to do with it? Arei miklat are for accidental murderers.” His answer was that people are affected by what they hear. If you constantly hear about murders, you are more likely to start to value life less and you are more likely to be negligent and cause an accidental death”.

The point is that we are affected by what we hear. So if your “taaneh” in spreading these stories is that it is l’toeles, it does not help and in fact is detrimental.

If you truly want to help, start a thread with stories of people who ARE careful in these areas.