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I don’t see why you’re offended. Im just trying to figure out the disconnect here why people can’t accept my Derech. So first I got the message that although you (as a whole) can accept my logic, it just sounds too different than you’re Derech, and so you’re sending allot of shocked responses to the effect of, “What, you really think that?” Without addressing what’s wrong with it.
To that I responded that I understand you’re not open to really listening and that’s understandable, but there’s no point in going on before people can digest what I’ve said.
Then I’m getting other responses with the message of “You can’t believe what your Rebbe says. In fact, if it sounds unusual, you should realise your Rebbe made a mistake or didnt really know what he was saying.
To that I responded with the Rambam and quoted it myself because I saw people aren’t going to necessarily look it up.
As you can see, not only is it not strange to not sure with your Rebbe, is actually like rebelling against Hashem. So my logical conclusion is that maybe you don’t hold by the same level of respect for your Rebbeim because maybe you don’t hold as highly of them as tzaddikim? You can’t have it born ways – tell me I shouldn’t trust my own Rebbe, but cos that you don’t esteem your own. Unless you disagree with the Rambam which would be a bigger issue and I don’t think that’s the case.
Another option is that people are ignorant of the Rebbe’s greatness in Torah or are deliberately ignoring it.
If that’s the case, I can’t help you as before making statements against a big tzaddik, the least you should do is so some research to make sure your suspicions are really true. And you don’t have to even google around or call people, MC has done a great job with providing quotes. And someone who persists with these comments obviously had no respect for Torah authority so I don’t have a common ground with him.
The last thing I can think of is that you were not aware of the way tzaddikim and Rebbeim are to be treated, and now that I’ve quoted you halacha, you will obviously not disagree, but you don’t understand how this level of respect can go with not serving A”Z cvs. If that’s the case, then just say you don’t understand this. And any of us will be happy to explain as there is a well known maamar called byom Ashtei asar that addresses this.