Reply To: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us!

Username you do have something to learn though. And I’ll demonstrate below.

“9. Rabbi Heller (the Rosh Kollel of Crown Heights).

And tell them Yechi (in secret, even without cameras). I’m not responsible for your hospital bills after this.

These people don’t say Yechi secretly. They hate Meshichstim. If they had the legal power, they would shut down the Meshichist institutions overnight. And Agu”ch (the official overarching group of older Chassidim, who, if anyone is, the governing group of Chabad) is officially anti, and so is Merkos (the official organization that sends on Shlichus). They’re involved in lawsuit after lawsuit trying to shut down Meshichistim. Just try going to Krinsky and Kotlarsky and try saying Yechi. And the younger generation is getting more and more anti over time.”

OK so I’m sure you didn’t know that the same Rabbi Heller you mentioned above, is the one who inspired Rabbi Gershon Avtzon (of cincinatti) to open his Yeshiva (ie an extremely right wing Yeshiva).

Here’s how: when Rabbi Avtzon was in the Rebbe’s kollel, one morning he saw Rabbi Heller throwing out some pamphlets with yechi in them. He went over to Rabbi Heller to discuss it, and came away very inspired. Rabbi Heller told to him

That he is the Rosh Kollel and this is his shitta regarding yechi. So since its his shita its his duty to enforce it, as a matter of Chinuch for the yungeleit and that’s why he’s doing it.

However he told Rabbi Avtzon, if you see things differently, it’s your *chov* to go out and teach it! The important thing is that we give a strong chassidishe chinuch to our children without compromising what we say.

So he did.

Now that should sort your “hate meshichistim” part. And he’s an extreme meshichist.

Now Yes if you walked into those places and said yechi people would be upset that your being annoying and
stuffing your slogans which they don’t necessarily believe and definitely believe should not be publicized, in their faces. But you would hardly get the same visceral reaction if you asked them if the Rebbe could be moshiach.

As far as the younger generation getting more anti I would say that isn’t true. I’m from the younger generation as is my husband and all our friends. Amongst the chassidish people, mainstream is definitely not anti. But we tend to argue less and accept that there are different ways to be a chossid and i can consider you a chossid just as much as myself etc.

Btw just curious (assuming you’re a detroiter) is it true that detroit doesn’t allow their bochurim to learn the nun aleph and nun beis sichos? If so how do they justify that?

Another question: why do you “antis” have such a hard time with the Rebbe being moshiach but I’m sure you have learned countless sichos where the Rebbe said the Frierdiker Rebbe should have techias hameisim and lead us to the Geula?

Just wondering.