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Chossid: “Don’t you think theee is something behind there ahavas Yisrael thats getting them to go in this crazy places…”

I’m sure on occasion it’s Ahavas Yisrael that is their impetus, but knowing MANY chabad house directors I am also sure that it is often just a matter of finding a job – sometimes a hard job – that gives you kovod within your own circle and in a community of people who don’t know any different.
What about all the fights when shlichim open up chabad houses that encroach on other shlichim’s territories? Is that a manifestation of Ahavas Yisrael?
What about the fights with the “mushrooms” (I’ll let you explain what I am referring to if you feel like it.) If these people are doing the same rebbe’s work that the official shlichim are doing, why are they considered out of line and “mushrooms”?

Chossid: “Have you ever considered that maybe you hashkofa is messed up? Just wondering.”

Yes, in fact I often do. And that’s why I have my hashkafos checked regularly during my discussions with erliche talmidei chachomim who are yirei Shamayim, who are far better than me, and who have fundamental beliefs that are accepted across the spectrum of the Torah world, unlike the hashkofos of almost all lubavichers. On the other hand, if you mean do I open an Igros at random to see whether I’m right or not, then the answer is no.

Chossid: “Why does the fact that they are lacking in tzius, make that everything else is wrong?”

That’s a fair question but I have an honest answer. Kedushah is a prerequisite of chassidus and yiras Shamayim. That is what ALL other groups of chassidim were mekabel from the Baal Shem. (It’s possible that lubavich was also mekabel that but somewhere along the line it seems to have been forgotten or just not mentioned.) As a number of us have said in the past, a lack of tznius must mean a lack of kedushah. There is no other way of interpreting it. Therefore, if there is a lack of tznius in lubavich – and I’m not just referring to dress, I’m also referring to mixing of the genders and improper interaction between them in speech and manner, as I’ve also pointed out before – there must be a distinct lack of kedusha. You yourself have admitted that tznius is a problem. So you can’t expect us to accept that lubavich is anywhere near the top of the kedushah pyramid and that we should therefore take your hashkofos in chassidus seriously.

The last paragraph, by the way, was not written vindictively or with any ulterior motive of winning an argument and silencing you or anyone else. It is an honest explanation of why I and others look down on lubavich based on their levels of tznius.