Reply To: The Real Problem

The issue at stake is the complete abandonment of the moral code. The specific aveira that we are discussing is the very thing that initiated the Mabul, the literal destruction of the world. The Mabul’s origins are bluntly described in the Midrash Rabbah. When gender and moral norms – things that are very clearly addressed in the Torah – become warped, the very moorings of society become undone. Don’t take my word for it, just look at the Torah. The Mabul, as mentioned; you previously mentioned Sodom – by Lot, the Sodomim wanted to abuse the malachim. To’eiva is, plain and simple, one of the few things that seems to cause HKBH to act with force against the world. That is the concern I am raising: Going down this road will seemingly lead to some very bad outcomes for society. Since we live in this society, we will experience whatever consequences occur and we should not expect them to be enjoyable.